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>>>I just fail to see where men are getting a raw deal here. Start with men suffering ~90% of workplace fatalities? https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.

>>>I just fail to see where men are getting a raw deal here. Start with men suffering ~90% of workplace fatalities? https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf Why is there no push for women to be equally represented in the jobs that SUCK? Where are the feminists advocating for 50% of coal miners and loggers to be female? Nowhere to be found....because they want to secure the benefits that accrue to a small fraction of men, produced by the whole civilization (C-level positions, etc.) without sharing the bone-crushing burdens endured by the larger swathe of the male population that actually enables it.

madaxe_again 5y ago
>> Start with men suffering ~90% of workplace fatalities? Well, given that we’re talking about labour… And how many men die in childbirth? Men have a choice to take dangerous jobs. Women don’t have a choice to have medical complications during labour.
- A_non_e-moose 5y ago
  > And how many men die in childbirth? I'd say about 50% of the neonatal death rate. :) Seriously though, US has an unexpectedly high maternal death rate for a western country: https://www.statista.com/chart/23541/maternal-mortality-developed-countries/ https://www.statista.com/chart/23541/maternal-mortality-deve...
- CapricornNoble 5y ago
  >>>And how many men die in childbirth? 100% of the males who get naturally pregnant. Ask a silly question, get a silly answer. It's almost like there are biological differences between men and women, and that these organisms are largely optimized for distinct roles in the human system. >>>Men have a choice to take dangerous jobs. If men flat-out refused to do dangerous work....our entire industrialized economy would collapse, because at the end of the day all of it is built on top of natural resource extraction. Are you suggesting that all those men digging rare earth metals out of the ground should just #learntocode? >>>Women don’t have a choice to have medical complications during labour. But they DO have choice to not get pregnant at all, right? If men are accountable for their choice of profession and the inherent risks, are women not accountable for their reproductive choices and inherent risks? If reducing (obviously gender-skewed) labor complications is a valid societal concern, than shouldn't reducing (also gender-skewed) workplace fatalities also be a valid societal concern? I'm not really sure what you are arguing here with the pregnancy angle.
  - anoncake 5y ago
    > 100% of the males who get naturally pregnant. Almost, some trans men can get pregnant. But I am being pedantic.

madaxe_again 5y ago

>> Start with men suffering ~90% of workplace fatalities? Well, given that we’re talking about labour… And how many men die in childbirth? Men have a choice to take dangerous jobs. Women don’t have a choice to have medical complications during labour.

A_non_e-moose 5y ago
> And how many men die in childbirth? I'd say about 50% of the neonatal death rate. :) Seriously though, US has an unexpectedly high maternal death rate for a western country: https://www.statista.com/chart/23541/maternal-mortality-developed-countries/ https://www.statista.com/chart/23541/maternal-mortality-deve...
CapricornNoble 5y ago
>>>And how many men die in childbirth? 100% of the males who get naturally pregnant. Ask a silly question, get a silly answer. It's almost like there are biological differences between men and women, and that these organisms are largely optimized for distinct roles in the human system. >>>Men have a choice to take dangerous jobs. If men flat-out refused to do dangerous work....our entire industrialized economy would collapse, because at the end of the day all of it is built on top of natural resource extraction. Are you suggesting that all those men digging rare earth metals out of the ground should just #learntocode? >>>Women don’t have a choice to have medical complications during labour. But they DO have choice to not get pregnant at all, right? If men are accountable for their choice of profession and the inherent risks, are women not accountable for their reproductive choices and inherent risks? If reducing (obviously gender-skewed) labor complications is a valid societal concern, than shouldn't reducing (also gender-skewed) workplace fatalities also be a valid societal concern? I'm not really sure what you are arguing here with the pregnancy angle.
- anoncake 5y ago
  > 100% of the males who get naturally pregnant. Almost, some trans men can get pregnant. But I am being pedantic.