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And I'm glad they did. Judging from Apple's business model, it would have been yet another closed off, keep your data social network. I've been dying for an ope

And I'm glad they did. Judging from Apple's business model, it would have been yet another closed off, keep your data social network. I've been dying for an open network like Google+, and I think things played out quite well.

kmavm 15y ago
What's open about Google+? You can delete your account and download your data from Facebook as well; you can also write third party applications that read and write from/to Facebook, unlike Google+.
- codabrink 15y ago
  Google allows you to export your data through their "Google Takeout" service. This includes your contacts and circles, unlike facebook, who is now pushing harder than ever to keep your contacts in Facebook.
  - kmavm 15y ago
    facebook.com -> Account settings -> Security -> 'Click here to download a copy of the data you've put on Facebook.'
    - cryptoz 15y ago
      Right. Export everything but internet contact info...the most useful parts they keep locked up. That button does not export email addresses. Fake export.
      - codabrink 15y ago
        I just hope that Google+ keeps the "Google Takeout" feature and doesn't close up. "Openness" was Google's selling point for Android when it first came out, and yes, it's still "open", but nothing like what it once was. This just seems like a deja vu waiting to happen.
      - kmavm 15y ago
        I'll let Google explain the exact same product decision for their social network Orkut in 2009: "Mass exportation of email is not standard on most social networks — when a user friends someone they don’t then expect that person to be easily able to send that contact information to a third party along with hundreds of other addresses with just one click. In order to protect user privacy, we now exclude email addresses from the CSV export file." http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/26/orkut-slows-hemorraging-to-facebook-by-making-friend-export-tool-nearly-useless/ http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/26/orkut-slows-hemorraging-to-... They're right. Programmatic export of friends' email addresses is too ripe for abuse in the world we live in.

kmavm 15y ago

What's open about Google+? You can delete your account and download your data from Facebook as well; you can also write third party applications that read and write from/to Facebook, unlike Google+.

codabrink 15y ago
Google allows you to export your data through their "Google Takeout" service. This includes your contacts and circles, unlike facebook, who is now pushing harder than ever to keep your contacts in Facebook.
- kmavm 15y ago
  facebook.com -> Account settings -> Security -> 'Click here to download a copy of the data you've put on Facebook.'
  - cryptoz 15y ago
    Right. Export everything but internet contact info...the most useful parts they keep locked up. That button does not export email addresses. Fake export.
    - codabrink 15y ago
      I just hope that Google+ keeps the "Google Takeout" feature and doesn't close up. "Openness" was Google's selling point for Android when it first came out, and yes, it's still "open", but nothing like what it once was. This just seems like a deja vu waiting to happen.
    - kmavm 15y ago
      I'll let Google explain the exact same product decision for their social network Orkut in 2009: "Mass exportation of email is not standard on most social networks — when a user friends someone they don’t then expect that person to be easily able to send that contact information to a third party along with hundreds of other addresses with just one click. In order to protect user privacy, we now exclude email addresses from the CSV export file." http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/26/orkut-slows-hemorraging-to-facebook-by-making-friend-export-tool-nearly-useless/ http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/26/orkut-slows-hemorraging-to-... They're right. Programmatic export of friends' email addresses is too ripe for abuse in the world we live in.