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This description is UE startups in a nutshell :) Countries like Poland for example, get massive amount of money from the EU, and there are business that special

This description is UE startups in a nutshell :) Countries like Poland for example, get massive amount of money from the EU, and there are business that specialize only in getting grants for people, which then they use to make a "company" for a year or two, and when the money runs out they close it and reopen another one with the next grant. With no revenue stream idea what so ever. In this type of country's if you have a EU grant base company, you are a meme. Italy on the other hand, dose not use the grants, because here nobody have a clue what's the point of a company, what it means to work to build something successful, and if you talk to an Italian about the grind, or working a minimum of 16h a day, they look at you as a complete lunatic - while complaining that they don't have money. Well... Either you grind or you meet every day with your friends for an Aperitivo, and live the Dolce Vita.

tcoff91 5y ago
16 hours a day of work is crazy and you don’t have to work that much to have decent money.
Haemm0r 5y ago
I'd prefer Dolce Vita over 16h/day anytime! :-)
Hamuko 5y ago
>working a minimum of 16h a day, they look at you as a complete lunatic As they should.
- Dudeman112 5y ago
  I don't think op is gonna admit to being a lunatic, even if they do engage in such behaviors like thinking that working 16h per day isn't insanity
mattmanser 5y ago
No offense, but that stuff's pocket change to the actual economies of the EU. It's a redistribution of wealth without having to admit that's what it really is, and if it scores a success, great. It's very easy to forget that there are only 3 countries worth talking about in the EU economically, previously 4, but the UK leaving basically took 20% of the EU's GDP. Now there's France, Germany and Italy, and everyone else is basically irrelevant, although you might just include Spain or Holland.
ZeroGravitas 5y ago
If the benefits of companies touted elsewhere in the thread is providing employment, why don't you hire two people to work 8 hour days and get more done? If the answer is that you'd need to pay twice as much, then that's the equivalent of saying the person working 16 hours is getting half the going rate as well as not having any life outside work.

tcoff91 5y ago

16 hours a day of work is crazy and you don’t have to work that much to have decent money.

Haemm0r 5y ago

I'd prefer Dolce Vita over 16h/day anytime! :-)

Hamuko 5y ago

>working a minimum of 16h a day, they look at you as a complete lunatic As they should.

Dudeman112 5y ago
I don't think op is gonna admit to being a lunatic, even if they do engage in such behaviors like thinking that working 16h per day isn't insanity

mattmanser 5y ago

No offense, but that stuff's pocket change to the actual economies of the EU. It's a redistribution of wealth without having to admit that's what it really is, and if it scores a success, great. It's very easy to forget that there are only 3 countries worth talking about in the EU economically, previously 4, but the UK leaving basically took 20% of the EU's GDP. Now there's France, Germany and Italy, and everyone else is basically irrelevant, although you might just include Spain or Holland.

ZeroGravitas 5y ago

If the benefits of companies touted elsewhere in the thread is providing employment, why don't you hire two people to work 8 hour days and get more done? If the answer is that you'd need to pay twice as much, then that's the equivalent of saying the person working 16 hours is getting half the going rate as well as not having any life outside work.