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Those men doesn't even enter relationships, which is what women complains about. They feel those guys have way too high standards, and they destroy themselves t

Those men doesn't even enter relationships, which is what women complains about. They feel those guys have way too high standards, and they destroy themselves trying to live up to them. And ultimately women have to settle, as you say the math doesn't work out and in the end they want a relationship. But that doesn't help the young men who aren't old enough to be in the strike zone of more mature women. And since the women felt they settled when they went with this man of course it is they who initiate divorce and end the relationship since they always felt that they could do better.

majormajor 5y ago
Aha, so it's men that you have a low opinion of! "All they care about is sex so they never commit so these women sleep with them in hopes that they'll have a real relationship but then the men never let it go anywhere, and all the women are competing over this small pool of sex-obsessed assholes." In which case a narrative blaming men is bang-on accurate, but IMO this is nothing like the majority of relationships, especially as you get further from age 20 or so... "Live, try things out, settle down when you're ready to" sounds fine to me, since again, these groups of unhappy women and undateable men tend to be loud but I see no evidence that they're demographically dominant percentages. Way too many ... not-the-most-attractive... dudes out there getting married for the math to add up...
- username90 5y ago
  > Aha, so it's men that you have a low opinion of! Why are you making this about sides? I don't have a low opinion of either side, I'm just making observations. Stop looking for a fight.
- plutonorm 5y ago
  You could just as easily say it’s women’s fault for finding only very highly desirable men attractive. But ultimately this is about biology, there’s no one to blame but Mother Nature. The sooner we can automate away the infrastructure that supports society and disappear into a virtual reality of our design the better - just like every other sentient species that has ever existed.
  - throwaway306744 5y ago
    Biology is certainly some of it, but culture also plays a major under-acknowledged role in determining what attractive means.
  - 1FeJEjdmjhfw3Uf 5y ago
    >just like every other sentient species that has ever existed Such as? What are some examples of these other sentient species that have disappeared into a virtual reality of their own design?

majormajor 5y ago

Aha, so it's men that you have a low opinion of! "All they care about is sex so they never commit so these women sleep with them in hopes that they'll have a real relationship but then the men never let it go anywhere, and all the women are competing over this small pool of sex-obsessed assholes." In which case a narrative blaming men is bang-on accurate, but IMO this is nothing like the majority of relationships, especially as you get further from age 20 or so... "Live, try things out, settle down when you're ready to" sounds fine to me, since again, these groups of unhappy women and undateable men tend to be loud but I see no evidence that they're demographically dominant percentages. Way too many ... not-the-most-attractive... dudes out there getting married for the math to add up...

username90 5y ago
> Aha, so it's men that you have a low opinion of! Why are you making this about sides? I don't have a low opinion of either side, I'm just making observations. Stop looking for a fight.
plutonorm 5y ago
You could just as easily say it’s women’s fault for finding only very highly desirable men attractive. But ultimately this is about biology, there’s no one to blame but Mother Nature. The sooner we can automate away the infrastructure that supports society and disappear into a virtual reality of our design the better - just like every other sentient species that has ever existed.
- throwaway306744 5y ago
  Biology is certainly some of it, but culture also plays a major under-acknowledged role in determining what attractive means.
- 1FeJEjdmjhfw3Uf 5y ago
  >just like every other sentient species that has ever existed Such as? What are some examples of these other sentient species that have disappeared into a virtual reality of their own design?