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Apple's greed means that instead of getting 30%, or 10% (probably a reasonable commission for them to voluntarily move to), they will be getting 0%.

epicureanideal 5y ago
That depends. I do feel somewhat more comfortable installing apps from the App Store due to their vetting process.
Spartan-S63 5y ago
Will it? As a former Android user, I never installed third-party app stores because they all sucked — whether it be poor app selection, poor curation, or just trying to shove their apps down my throat (looking at you Amazon Appstore). Likewise, even if Apple does have to open up their platform, I will not install another app store. I will trust Apple over anyone else to run a reputable store. Sure, they're not without fault, but I expect most others to do a far worse job. I think it'll be a performative action at best. It's good policy to not allow platform monopolies, but I don't think it'll be the downfall of Apple's commission that everyone thinks it will be.
- aequitas 5y ago
  I also would be really hesitant to install apps from other stores. Sideloaded or alternative store app's will also still be subject to OS's restrictions and available API's. It's not like Apple will allow rooted app's to be installed. The only things the new stores will have to offer is circumvention of the Apple Tax or review guidelines. The only benefit I see is that it wouldn't cost me $100 to build and sideload my own or open source app's. But in all these years I've never had the need for this (though this might sprawl up a bit with availability ofc). The only things I truly wanted where changes at an OS level so would still require a jailbreak or root. Like how the widget screen is covered for 50% by icons I don't use and can't remove/configure.
  - gorbypark 5y ago
    It’s free to download Xcode and compile open source apps yourself. You’ll have to resign them (open Xcode, reload on phone) once a week, though, and you can’t distribute the app to other phones. It’s only $100/yr if you want to publish to the App Store.
    - Spartan-S63 5y ago
      Even less if you go the route of AltStore/AltServer because they handle the resigning for you via email(?) or something. It's a pretty nifty workaround to sideload.
mcny 5y ago
I assume EU regulations apply to all EU persons, not just those in the EU? If so, is there a way for anyone in the world to become an EU person without giving up one's citizenship elsewhere just so I can be a party to GDPR and now this?
- dogma1138 5y ago
  These regulations only apply within the EU… Same like GDPR it only applies to services delivered to EU customers within the EU. A German moving to the US and consuming local services isn’t protected by GDPR.
  - lostlogin 5y ago
    What about an American using a German service? I thought that GDPR applied then? However I’m not sure you get EU law to apply to a phone, buy unlocked from a German teleco?
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  If you want to gain most of the protections of the GDPR, you could just use an EU proxy server, and have a registered email address with a well known European email provider. Your rights would be limited in the ability to file a complaint against a particular data processor, but you would get all the fringe benefits of law-abiding companies estimating that you fall under GDPR regulations.

epicureanideal 5y ago

That depends. I do feel somewhat more comfortable installing apps from the App Store due to their vetting process.

Spartan-S63 5y ago

Will it? As a former Android user, I never installed third-party app stores because they all sucked — whether it be poor app selection, poor curation, or just trying to shove their apps down my throat (looking at you Amazon Appstore). Likewise, even if Apple does have to open up their platform, I will not install another app store. I will trust Apple over anyone else to run a reputable store. Sure, they're not without fault, but I expect most others to do a far worse job. I think it'll be a performative action at best. It's good policy to not allow platform monopolies, but I don't think it'll be the downfall of Apple's commission that everyone thinks it will be.

aequitas 5y ago
I also would be really hesitant to install apps from other stores. Sideloaded or alternative store app's will also still be subject to OS's restrictions and available API's. It's not like Apple will allow rooted app's to be installed. The only things the new stores will have to offer is circumvention of the Apple Tax or review guidelines. The only benefit I see is that it wouldn't cost me $100 to build and sideload my own or open source app's. But in all these years I've never had the need for this (though this might sprawl up a bit with availability ofc). The only things I truly wanted where changes at an OS level so would still require a jailbreak or root. Like how the widget screen is covered for 50% by icons I don't use and can't remove/configure.
- gorbypark 5y ago
  It’s free to download Xcode and compile open source apps yourself. You’ll have to resign them (open Xcode, reload on phone) once a week, though, and you can’t distribute the app to other phones. It’s only $100/yr if you want to publish to the App Store.
  - Spartan-S63 5y ago
    Even less if you go the route of AltStore/AltServer because they handle the resigning for you via email(?) or something. It's a pretty nifty workaround to sideload.

mcny 5y ago

I assume EU regulations apply to all EU persons, not just those in the EU? If so, is there a way for anyone in the world to become an EU person without giving up one's citizenship elsewhere just so I can be a party to GDPR and now this?

dogma1138 5y ago
These regulations only apply within the EU… Same like GDPR it only applies to services delivered to EU customers within the EU. A German moving to the US and consuming local services isn’t protected by GDPR.
- lostlogin 5y ago
  What about an American using a German service? I thought that GDPR applied then? However I’m not sure you get EU law to apply to a phone, buy unlocked from a German teleco?
oh_sigh 5y ago
If you want to gain most of the protections of the GDPR, you could just use an EU proxy server, and have a registered email address with a well known European email provider. Your rights would be limited in the ability to file a complaint against a particular data processor, but you would get all the fringe benefits of law-abiding companies estimating that you fall under GDPR regulations.