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> I’m well aware that if you want your health data to remain private, smartwatches are certainly risky. But we’re way past that now. These devices can and have

> I’m well aware that if you want your health data to remain private, smartwatches are certainly risky. But we’re way past that now. These devices can and have saved lives, and despite some early skepticism, wearables aren’t going anywhere. The Apple Watch is right there. Apple is very clearly committed to user privacy, to the fullest extent reasonably possible in the current climate. Indeed, they've even doubled down on privacy harder than ever before as of the WWDC keynote this week—one particular item of note being that where the hardware will support it, they'll be moving Siri processing on-device, rather than requiring it to go to their servers. At this point, any FUD alleging that they might still be taking your data, or might want to at some future date, is founded in no actual evidence whatsoever, and is actively detrimental to the cause of privacy as it causes people to think that they "might as well" get something from FB or Google because they're "no different". If you want a smartwatch, and want your data to remain private, just get an Apple Watch.

adolph 5y ago
>If you want a smartwatch, and want your data to remain private Pick one.
- danaris 5y ago
  And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have a perfect example of the kind of person I was describing in my post above. Note the utter lack of nuance or reading comprehension. To the point: No, you do not have to "pick one," for the reasons I just stated. If you have any evidence that your data will not be kept private by an Apple Watch, then by all means, present some! It would certainly be a scandal for the company, given how hard they've been pushing the privacy angle! If all you have is a) a general feeling that All Tech Companies Are The Same, or b) a seething hatred of Apple and all that they do, then kindly keep them to yourself, because they are emphatically unhelpful in this context.
  - adolph 5y ago
    No need to push together so much straw. I think the folks at Apple now are doing great things that push things like differential privacy and other techniques in a direction I agree with and I think is better than many other companies. I’ve personally sought out their products since running System 6.0.8 on a PB100’s persisting RAM disk. At the same time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_photos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_phot...
    - danaris 5y ago
      For the Nth time, that was a *phishing attack*. Apple cannot be held responsible either for selling that data by design, nor for insufficient data security. Their systems were not compromised. I cannot believe that 7 years later people are still holding that up as an example of why Apple cannot be trusted.
      - adolph 5y ago
        User error is part of the total security profile of any system. It doesn’t have anything to do with Apple specifically, just an example of how the best intentions of a vendor are only part of the picture.

adolph 5y ago

>If you want a smartwatch, and want your data to remain private Pick one.

danaris 5y ago
And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have a perfect example of the kind of person I was describing in my post above. Note the utter lack of nuance or reading comprehension. To the point: No, you do not have to "pick one," for the reasons I just stated. If you have any evidence that your data will not be kept private by an Apple Watch, then by all means, present some! It would certainly be a scandal for the company, given how hard they've been pushing the privacy angle! If all you have is a) a general feeling that All Tech Companies Are The Same, or b) a seething hatred of Apple and all that they do, then kindly keep them to yourself, because they are emphatically unhelpful in this context.
- adolph 5y ago
  No need to push together so much straw. I think the folks at Apple now are doing great things that push things like differential privacy and other techniques in a direction I agree with and I think is better than many other companies. I’ve personally sought out their products since running System 6.0.8 on a PB100’s persisting RAM disk. At the same time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_photos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_phot...
  - danaris 5y ago
    For the Nth time, that was a *phishing attack*. Apple cannot be held responsible either for selling that data by design, nor for insufficient data security. Their systems were not compromised. I cannot believe that 7 years later people are still holding that up as an example of why Apple cannot be trusted.
    - adolph 5y ago
      User error is part of the total security profile of any system. It doesn’t have anything to do with Apple specifically, just an example of how the best intentions of a vendor are only part of the picture.