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> the real problem though is the schedule the world runs on. Yes! People have different circadian rhythms. Also teenagers tend to naturally be night owls. But

> the real problem though is the schedule the world runs on. Yes! People have different circadian rhythms. Also teenagers tend to naturally be night owls. But the world doesn’t care much. Even having schedule flexibility at work, if you have kids that you need to take to school, then you have to follow their schedule.

411111111111111 5y ago
Most seditary people turn into "night owls" if they don't pay attention. Your phrasing makes it sound like people can't help themselves, but thats just wrong. Sleeping habits are actually an issue of discipline unless you're suffering from an actual medical condition... Which are extremely rare Either start working out/do cardio or reduce your sleeping time until you're able to go to sleep at the time you wish. some things are actually controllable if the person in question cared enough to actually learn about themselves.
- ta1234567890 5y ago
  You might want to read this: http://healthysleep.med.harvard.edu/healthy/science/variations/individual-variation-genetics http://healthysleep.med.harvard.edu/healthy/science/variatio... It is scientifically recognized that people have different circadian rhythms (thus sleep cycles). And here’s some research about teenage delayed circadian rhythm: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2820578/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2820578/ You know, sometimes people are not snowflakes that require bullying or discipline to do things “the right way”. Btw, do you have any references for your claim that most sedentary people will become night owls if they don’t pay attention? Or is it just your own personal perspective?
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  - 411111111111111 5y ago
    Your comment is about as insightful as someone pointing at rotten teeth from a person that doesn't brush their teeth as an example why brushing them doesn't work. There are people that suffer from this self afflicted syndrome and it's not easy to change your lifestyle into a healthy one. Hiding behind words like night owl doesn't help you if you want to change yourself however. And if you don't want to change yourself, then just admit to yourself that this is the lifestyle you want to have. There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to stay up late/sleep in. It is however a decision you make and not a biological necessity.
    - ta1234567890 5y ago
      > There are people that suffer from this self afflicted syndrome and it's not easy to change your lifestyle into a healthy one. Hiding behind words like night owl doesn't help you if you want to change yourself however. Not sure why you are attacking me, and I never said I was a night owl or that I wanted to change myself. Anyway, if you consider genetic predispositions or adolescence to be “self afflicted syndromes”, then either there’s a language barrier or you just will never accept something that it’s not your own opinion, even if there’s scientific research showing you otherwise (maybe you didn’t read it? If so, then I suggest you do).
      - 411111111111111 5y ago
        The research shows that the syndrome exists. I never denied that. Obesity exists as well and is usually caused by the lifestyle of the afflicted. The same applies here. I'm sorry for my phrasing however, there is a language barrier as you've correctly pointed out and I was using the "you" as a generic term for people identify with that.
- 0xcde4c3db 5y ago
  Medical conditions affecting sleep are pretty common. In elderly men, obstructive sleep apnea might actually be the rule rather than the exception [1], and that's just one condition. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27568340/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27568340/
  - 411111111111111 5y ago
    How did we get from people calling themselves night owls to people suffering from insomnia? You do realize that these are different things I hope? If not, here is a hint: a "night owl" has no trouble falling asleep when it's "their time" to sleep. A person suffering from insomnia still struggles to fall asleep even if it's 2am.

411111111111111 5y ago

Most seditary people turn into "night owls" if they don't pay attention. Your phrasing makes it sound like people can't help themselves, but thats just wrong. Sleeping habits are actually an issue of discipline unless you're suffering from an actual medical condition... Which are extremely rare Either start working out/do cardio or reduce your sleeping time until you're able to go to sleep at the time you wish. some things are actually controllable if the person in question cared enough to actually learn about themselves.

ta1234567890 5y ago
You might want to read this: http://healthysleep.med.harvard.edu/healthy/science/variations/individual-variation-genetics http://healthysleep.med.harvard.edu/healthy/science/variatio... It is scientifically recognized that people have different circadian rhythms (thus sleep cycles). And here’s some research about teenage delayed circadian rhythm: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2820578/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2820578/ You know, sometimes people are not snowflakes that require bullying or discipline to do things “the right way”. Btw, do you have any references for your claim that most sedentary people will become night owls if they don’t pay attention? Or is it just your own personal perspective?
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- 411111111111111 5y ago
  Your comment is about as insightful as someone pointing at rotten teeth from a person that doesn't brush their teeth as an example why brushing them doesn't work. There are people that suffer from this self afflicted syndrome and it's not easy to change your lifestyle into a healthy one. Hiding behind words like night owl doesn't help you if you want to change yourself however. And if you don't want to change yourself, then just admit to yourself that this is the lifestyle you want to have. There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to stay up late/sleep in. It is however a decision you make and not a biological necessity.
  - ta1234567890 5y ago
    > There are people that suffer from this self afflicted syndrome and it's not easy to change your lifestyle into a healthy one. Hiding behind words like night owl doesn't help you if you want to change yourself however. Not sure why you are attacking me, and I never said I was a night owl or that I wanted to change myself. Anyway, if you consider genetic predispositions or adolescence to be “self afflicted syndromes”, then either there’s a language barrier or you just will never accept something that it’s not your own opinion, even if there’s scientific research showing you otherwise (maybe you didn’t read it? If so, then I suggest you do).
    - 411111111111111 5y ago
      The research shows that the syndrome exists. I never denied that. Obesity exists as well and is usually caused by the lifestyle of the afflicted. The same applies here. I'm sorry for my phrasing however, there is a language barrier as you've correctly pointed out and I was using the "you" as a generic term for people identify with that.
0xcde4c3db 5y ago
Medical conditions affecting sleep are pretty common. In elderly men, obstructive sleep apnea might actually be the rule rather than the exception [1], and that's just one condition. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27568340/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27568340/
- 411111111111111 5y ago
  How did we get from people calling themselves night owls to people suffering from insomnia? You do realize that these are different things I hope? If not, here is a hint: a "night owl" has no trouble falling asleep when it's "their time" to sleep. A person suffering from insomnia still struggles to fall asleep even if it's 2am.