> So the solution has been to just flow with it, I sleep when I can, stay awake otherwise. I did this for years. Felt great for a while, then starting having n

> So the solution has been to just flow with it, I sleep when I can, stay awake otherwise. I did this for years. Felt great for a while, then starting having noticeable impacts on my ability to focus, my mood, and my physical health. The same old advice took close to 6 months to really start helping me. It was an absolute grind to stick to a wake + bedtime routine. The discipline it takes is absolutely insane (weekends were the hardest). I stopped and started over and over and over again, but eventually stuck to it. Low/medium dose ambien once or twice a week was the the thing that really got me into the habit/routine. Medication is not a long term fix (especially this stuff), but this was enough to get me through the fitful nights for a few months--it stopped me from getting out bed and breaking the routine. Anecdote, so as usual, ymmv.