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The average C++ codebase isn't from the 90s. On all the recent c++ polls the average language revision used is between c++14 and 17. Besides I'm pretty confide

The average C++ codebase isn't from the 90s. On all the recent c++ polls the average language revision used is between c++14 and 17. Besides I'm pretty confident that there are more new c++ projects created daily in 2021 than monthly at the peak of the 90s c++ craze - just on GitHub, 6/7% of C++ repos means a few million recent C++ repos.

dagw 5y ago
I've worked on several code bases that nominally are C++11 or 14. However they still contain a lot of code written by people still coding like it's the 90s.
varjag 5y ago
What does it have to do with what we are discussing?
- jcelerier 5y ago
  we are discussing the sentence "The average C++ code base has as many segfaults than the average C code base." __s and you said "You were using C++ >= 11 in 90s/00s?" to which I answered that this was not the point, because the average C++ code base isn't from the 90s/00s.
secondcoming 5y ago
> On all the recent c++ polls the average language revision used is between c++14 and 17. Polls of hobbyist coders, or software houses? I would be surprised if most software houses migrated to C++17 yet. Tensorflow is stuck on C++03 I think.
- jcelerier 5y ago
  TF is at least C++11 from the first header I opened in the repo: https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/master/tensorflow/cc/experimental/base/public/runtime.h https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/master/tensorf... I'm referring to e.g. the Jetbrains and cppcon polls. https://blog.jetbrains.com/clion/2020/06/dev-eco-cpp-2020/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/clion/2020/06/dev-eco-cpp-2020/ https://youtu.be/JYzDpXI-vWI?t=137 https://youtu.be/JYzDpXI-vWI?t=137
  - secondcoming 5y ago
    Last time I used it there was faff around having to define __GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI=0
    - jcelerier 5y ago
      it does not mean that you're not using C++11. This macro is just a compatibility flag for your code to work on old linux distros that provide a C++11 compiler but did not want to rebuild their whole archive. It mainly means that std::string is implemented with copy-on-write instead of small buffer optimization.

dagw 5y ago

I've worked on several code bases that nominally are C++11 or 14. However they still contain a lot of code written by people still coding like it's the 90s.

varjag 5y ago

What does it have to do with what we are discussing?

jcelerier 5y ago
we are discussing the sentence "The average C++ code base has as many segfaults than the average C code base." __s and you said "You were using C++ >= 11 in 90s/00s?" to which I answered that this was not the point, because the average C++ code base isn't from the 90s/00s.

secondcoming 5y ago

> On all the recent c++ polls the average language revision used is between c++14 and 17. Polls of hobbyist coders, or software houses? I would be surprised if most software houses migrated to C++17 yet. Tensorflow is stuck on C++03 I think.

jcelerier 5y ago
TF is at least C++11 from the first header I opened in the repo: https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/master/tensorflow/cc/experimental/base/public/runtime.h https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/master/tensorf... I'm referring to e.g. the Jetbrains and cppcon polls. https://blog.jetbrains.com/clion/2020/06/dev-eco-cpp-2020/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/clion/2020/06/dev-eco-cpp-2020/ https://youtu.be/JYzDpXI-vWI?t=137 https://youtu.be/JYzDpXI-vWI?t=137
- secondcoming 5y ago
  Last time I used it there was faff around having to define __GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI=0
  - jcelerier 5y ago
    it does not mean that you're not using C++11. This macro is just a compatibility flag for your code to work on old linux distros that provide a C++11 compiler but did not want to rebuild their whole archive. It mainly means that std::string is implemented with copy-on-write instead of small buffer optimization.