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These are obviously intended to be caractectures of stereotypical Jewish people with stereotypical anti-semetic libels. Even if you could argue for some reason

These are obviously intended to be caractectures of stereotypical Jewish people with stereotypical anti-semetic libels. Even if you could argue for some reason the particular people were relevant and actually looked like this... christ why woudln't you stop yourself and say 'wait a minute this could be misconstrued as anti-semetic, maybe I should adjust it'? How many examples of anti-semitism in the British progressive left do you need? How many people sacked by their own party and described by their own party as anti-semetic before you think 'oh right maybe these people are anti-semetic'? https://news.sky.com/story/12-shocking-claims-of-abuse-in-leaked-labour-antisemitism-dossier-11879053 https://news.sky.com/story/12-shocking-claims-of-abuse-in-le... 'This is fine, nothing to see here', huh?

incrudible 5y ago
> These are obviously intended to be caractectures of stereotypical Jewish people with stereotypical anti-semetic libels. If it was "obviously" intended to portray Jews, where is the "Star of David"? At best, you could argue that this is a dog-whistle to all these supposed closet antisemites among the left. > Even if you could argue for some reason the particular people were relevant and actually looked like this... I can argue that, because that is what is being portrayed here, according to the artist himself. > christ why woudln't you stop yourself and say 'wait a minute this could be misconstrued as anti-semetic, maybe I should adjust it'? Adjust how? Is there a guideline by the ADL on the proportion of Jewish noses for the purpose of caricature? By some standard, anything involving a Jew can be misconstrued as "antisemitic" one way or another. Unfortunately, if you want to portray "the masonic elite oppressing the masses", you can't get around the fact that this trope has been used by out-and-proud antisemites and ordinary anti-capitalists alike. > How many examples of anti-semitism in the British progressive left do you need? Let's start with "one". You have moved the goalpost repeatedly. First, this actress, now this artist. In either case, you failed to provide the smoking gun. Now we're moving on to allegations of harassment by low-level party-members. By that standard, you'll have trouble finding any political group that has a clean shirt. If I don't accept the conflation of Trumpism with anti-semitism or white nationalism, then I'm not going to accept the case you just made either. An allegation of antisemitism (or other -isms based on identity) is quite serious. It must be supported by solid evidence, not hearsay, not interpretation.

incrudible 5y ago

> These are obviously intended to be caractectures of stereotypical Jewish people with stereotypical anti-semetic libels. If it was "obviously" intended to portray Jews, where is the "Star of David"? At best, you could argue that this is a dog-whistle to all these supposed closet antisemites among the left. > Even if you could argue for some reason the particular people were relevant and actually looked like this... I can argue that, because that is what is being portrayed here, according to the artist himself. > christ why woudln't you stop yourself and say 'wait a minute this could be misconstrued as anti-semetic, maybe I should adjust it'? Adjust how? Is there a guideline by the ADL on the proportion of Jewish noses for the purpose of caricature? By some standard, anything involving a Jew can be misconstrued as "antisemitic" one way or another. Unfortunately, if you want to portray "the masonic elite oppressing the masses", you can't get around the fact that this trope has been used by out-and-proud antisemites and ordinary anti-capitalists alike. > How many examples of anti-semitism in the British progressive left do you need? Let's start with "one". You have moved the goalpost repeatedly. First, this actress, now this artist. In either case, you failed to provide the smoking gun. Now we're moving on to allegations of harassment by low-level party-members. By that standard, you'll have trouble finding any political group that has a clean shirt. If I don't accept the conflation of Trumpism with anti-semitism or white nationalism, then I'm not going to accept the case you just made either. An allegation of antisemitism (or other -isms based on identity) is quite serious. It must be supported by solid evidence, not hearsay, not interpretation.