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This is literally what a lot of managers think a lot of people want. People act (on average) with a lot more good faith than most corporate entities. If, as a

This is literally what a lot of managers think a lot of people want. People act (on average) with a lot more good faith than most corporate entities. If, as a manager, you are unable to infer that this is happening, then in all probability that person would be doing the same 'dabbling' if they were co-located. (Just with a higher effort of looking busier).

throwaway6734 5y ago
My anecdotal evidence is that the majority of people in my network are not working anywhere close 8 hours. I don't think they're less productive than they were in the office.
- ghaff 5y ago
  That's probably because they were rarely heads-down for 8 hours in the office either.
  - throwaway6734 5y ago
    absolutely
- Loughla 5y ago
  When we were remote, my staff was nowhere near 8 hours a day. Our schedules are very dependent on our students (higher education) and their needs. Sometimes they would work 2 hours a day, sometimes 10. It was literally just like in the office, except they were free to do whatever they needed to do during their down time. Old administration thought that wasn't good, because people were screwing around during the 8-5. I tried to explain that yes, that happened, but a) that already happens in the office; b) they're also working at night, on the weekends, and whenever the hell I need them to, and not complaining about it, or even being bothered by it c) they're happier and MUCH more effective for the students. No go.
Akronymus 5y ago
For me, I don't want to do that, but as distractions are so easy, I can easily see myself falling in such a pattern. That's why, despite having the choice to work from home, I am going to mainly work in the office.
- intricatedetail 5y ago
  Won't that project an image that you are not trustworthy and have to be supervised?
- l33t2328 5y ago
  I think there’s something to be said for the fixed “work” environment having an impact on your thinking and productivity. At work = work mode, at home = home mode.
  - ghaff 5y ago
    It's more important for some people than for others. I will say when I used to just sometimes work from home, it was more important for me to do the usual morning routine, dress up in my usual business casual, and sit down in my office. The last 10 years or so, when I've been increasingly working remote--and have been effectively full-time even within fairly easy commute of an office--I don't bother and will work anywhere in the house I want.
  - WorldMaker 5y ago
    Which is why many successful remote workers have a dedicated "space" for work to help force the mental switch between modes, even if it just a dedicated "office" room in their home or a regular coffee shop they only use for work or options like that. You can have a "fixed" work environment without it being a centrally managed office. More reason why "work-from-home" is an under-efficient specifier on both sides for what people are often really asking for/what bosses really want. "Work-from-home-office" at the very least would offer a better impression to both sides, though I think the great-grandparent here's "flexible-location" is probably better still.

throwaway6734 5y ago

My anecdotal evidence is that the majority of people in my network are not working anywhere close 8 hours. I don't think they're less productive than they were in the office.

ghaff 5y ago
That's probably because they were rarely heads-down for 8 hours in the office either.
- throwaway6734 5y ago
  absolutely
Loughla 5y ago
When we were remote, my staff was nowhere near 8 hours a day. Our schedules are very dependent on our students (higher education) and their needs. Sometimes they would work 2 hours a day, sometimes 10. It was literally just like in the office, except they were free to do whatever they needed to do during their down time. Old administration thought that wasn't good, because people were screwing around during the 8-5. I tried to explain that yes, that happened, but a) that already happens in the office; b) they're also working at night, on the weekends, and whenever the hell I need them to, and not complaining about it, or even being bothered by it c) they're happier and MUCH more effective for the students. No go.

Akronymus 5y ago

For me, I don't want to do that, but as distractions are so easy, I can easily see myself falling in such a pattern. That's why, despite having the choice to work from home, I am going to mainly work in the office.

intricatedetail 5y ago
Won't that project an image that you are not trustworthy and have to be supervised?
l33t2328 5y ago
I think there’s something to be said for the fixed “work” environment having an impact on your thinking and productivity. At work = work mode, at home = home mode.
- ghaff 5y ago
  It's more important for some people than for others. I will say when I used to just sometimes work from home, it was more important for me to do the usual morning routine, dress up in my usual business casual, and sit down in my office. The last 10 years or so, when I've been increasingly working remote--and have been effectively full-time even within fairly easy commute of an office--I don't bother and will work anywhere in the house I want.
- WorldMaker 5y ago
  Which is why many successful remote workers have a dedicated "space" for work to help force the mental switch between modes, even if it just a dedicated "office" room in their home or a regular coffee shop they only use for work or options like that. You can have a "fixed" work environment without it being a centrally managed office. More reason why "work-from-home" is an under-efficient specifier on both sides for what people are often really asking for/what bosses really want. "Work-from-home-office" at the very least would offer a better impression to both sides, though I think the great-grandparent here's "flexible-location" is probably better still.