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Restic Cryptography (2017)

21 points by chetangoti 5y ago

lucb1e 5y ago
I don't know if this is the right place to discuss this, but I found it interesting: there's something different about this submission: it doesn't show up on the submitter's profile exactly. HN has a 'second chance' system[1], this is the first time I notice it in action. I once had a second-chance submission and got an email. What I didn't notice at the time is that it's not just resubmitted, it's pushed and the date is fudged. If you look at the author's submission history, they submitted this actually prior to the submission of the other backup system (Kopia) and both are listed as "1 day ago", whereas this submission (same item ID and with the same number of points) is actually shown as "1 hour ago". I thought the second chance thing would submit it again, this is kind of confusing though I guess it makes sense to keep any comments already submitted. Thought I'd remark upon it since this is the first time I see it (that is, I got that email a while back about my own submission, but didn't notice this technicality). Edit: or maybe the email I got was an invitation to repost rather than a second chance pool entry. I don't know for sure. Both lists are available at https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308
kragen 5y ago
I hear Restic is great. Alternatives I've heard of (providing open-source incremental encrypted backups) include Borg, SparkleShare, SyncThing, Kup, Areca, and rdedup. I'd be really interested to hear how these compare; SyncThing and SparkleShare, for example, are not really intended for backups, but they make backups as a sort of side effect. Are all of these still live projects? Has anyone tried more than one of them?
- justin_oaks 5y ago
  Restic is pretty great. I use it for backups at work and my personal backups too. The fact that it's encrypted makes it so I can use cloud storage without worrying about what happens if (when?) the cloud provider gets hacked. The reduplication allows me to have both incremental and full backups in one application. If you're comfortable on the command line then I recommend Restic without reservation. If you're not comfortable on the command line then you may have to reach for another tool. I've used SyncThing. It's good for keeping folders on multiple devices in sync, but they are NOT backups. Backups allow you to recover from accidental or malicious deletions and modifications. SyncThing will happily move those deletions and modifications to your other systems, so both are in-sync and both are wrong.
  - kragen 5y ago
    Cool, thanks! I was thinking about data loss from, you know, a disk crash or phone theft, but you're right that real backups allow you to recover from accidental and malicious deletions and modifications too.
captn3m0 5y ago
Alexander Neumann (Restic creator) was recently on the changelog podcast earlier this year talking about Restic: http://changelog.com/podcast/434 http://changelog.com/podcast/434. He mentions his day-job is in infosec, and how that's led to good choices for Restic security.

21 points by chetangoti 5y ago

I don't know if this is the right place to discuss this, but I found it interesting: there's something different about this submission: it doesn't show up on the submitter's profile exactly. HN has a 'second chance' system[1], this is the first time I notice it in action. I once had a second-chance submission and got an email. What I didn't notice at the time is that it's not just resubmitted, it's pushed and the date is fudged. If you look at the author's submission history, they submitted this actually prior to the submission of the other backup system (Kopia) and both are listed as "1 day ago", whereas this submission (same item ID and with the same number of points) is actually shown as "1 hour ago". I thought the second chance thing would submit it again, this is kind of confusing though I guess it makes sense to keep any comments already submitted. Thought I'd remark upon it since this is the first time I see it (that is, I got that email a while back about my own submission, but didn't notice this technicality). Edit: or maybe the email I got was an invitation to repost rather than a second chance pool entry. I don't know for sure. Both lists are available at https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308

kragen 5y ago

I hear Restic is great. Alternatives I've heard of (providing open-source incremental encrypted backups) include Borg, SparkleShare, SyncThing, Kup, Areca, and rdedup. I'd be really interested to hear how these compare; SyncThing and SparkleShare, for example, are not really intended for backups, but they make backups as a sort of side effect. Are all of these still live projects? Has anyone tried more than one of them?

justin_oaks 5y ago
Restic is pretty great. I use it for backups at work and my personal backups too. The fact that it's encrypted makes it so I can use cloud storage without worrying about what happens if (when?) the cloud provider gets hacked. The reduplication allows me to have both incremental and full backups in one application. If you're comfortable on the command line then I recommend Restic without reservation. If you're not comfortable on the command line then you may have to reach for another tool. I've used SyncThing. It's good for keeping folders on multiple devices in sync, but they are NOT backups. Backups allow you to recover from accidental or malicious deletions and modifications. SyncThing will happily move those deletions and modifications to your other systems, so both are in-sync and both are wrong.
- kragen 5y ago
  Cool, thanks! I was thinking about data loss from, you know, a disk crash or phone theft, but you're right that real backups allow you to recover from accidental and malicious deletions and modifications too.

captn3m0 5y ago

Alexander Neumann (Restic creator) was recently on the changelog podcast earlier this year talking about Restic: http://changelog.com/podcast/434 http://changelog.com/podcast/434. He mentions his day-job is in infosec, and how that's led to good choices for Restic security.