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it is likely that way because it is an argument that often comes up when discussing losses accumulated through piracy. were the argument typically is that not e
by mercora 5y ago
it is likely that way because it is an argument that often comes up when discussing losses accumulated through piracy. were the argument typically is that not every copy should be accounted for a loss of sale. it does not really apply here because this game will probably sell the same amount as before someone got a hold of the code. And if it does not its likely because of some second order issue arising like not being able to fight cheaters...
- okamiueru 5y agoI suppose. But, this has very little to do with piracy. The source code wasn't acquired in order to compile bootleg versions of the game, and thus leading to loss of sales. This is the illegal gain of someone else's intellectual property. "Stealing" is a reasonable word to use in this context.
- toyg 5y agoBut the wider point is that "intellectual property" cannot effectively be "stolen", only "unlawfully obtained or reproduced". Nobody is ever deprived of IP or even its legally-created exploitation rights; it's only the market value of such IP that is allegedly affected. I reckon we need a new word. "Pirating" has sort-of taken that space but it's not really good and it only covers distribution. It should be something that carries a meaning of "swindled", "wiped away", "theoretic-market-value-corrupted".
- whiddershins 5y agoIf value is transferred by force, this is theft.
- toyg 5y agoBut there is no way to ascertain if value has actually been transferred. It's just fingers in the wind. EA could sell their games tomorrow and make exactly the same money they would have made before the hack.
- whiddershins 5y agoThise entire line of reasoning is reaching, it is rationalization for unethical behavior. Stop justifying poor behavior. Just stop. Trust me, your cognitive dissonance will reduce, and life will overall get easier.
- toyg 5y agoI doubt life will get easier when I don't question any established power-structure and just do (or pay) what I'm told. Or rather, somebody's life will probably get easier - just not mine.
- whiddershins 5y agoTaking advantage, in any way shape or form, of someone else's efforts, against their will, which efforts and work product were not in public but expressly in private, isn't sticking it to the man or fighting the power structure. It is just taking advantage of someone without their permission. That's all it is. There's nothing revolutionary or awesome about it. It isn't novel. It isn't creative. It isn't rebellious. It is simply an unethical use of force.
- toyg 5y agoWhen that someone enjoys disproportionate advantages in so many different ways, typically accumulated unjustly, and forces the world to follow certain rules in order to entrench such advantages forever, there is an ethical perspective where defying such rules is an act of resistance.
- whiddershins 5y agoYou are right that there are situations where that is true. For most activities in the United States, in 2021, this mode of analysis is flat out wrong. Realizing this distinction is a path to liberation.
- yoz-y 5y agoFreebooting. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Freebooting https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Freebooting As coined in hello internet. (If the intent is indeed to re-package and profit)