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Yes, and it is awful. I know no Mac user who isn't using Chrome and the hidden URL is one reason for this.
by ahofmann 5y ago
Yes, and it is awful. I know no Mac user who isn't using Chrome and the hidden URL is one reason for this.
- yftsui 5y agoContra data point here, I don’t use Chrome besides at work, enjoy the simplicity
- shp0ngle 5y agoAnecdote, I am using Safari for speed, except for Google Meet (since Safari seems to have never-ending issues with that, for some reason).
- yoz-y 5y agoA lot of Mac users are using safari for other reason. If there will be a true exodus, it will be because of the horrendous “tab” redesign in macOS 12
- Grustaf 5y agoWhat's horrendous about it? Haven't really tried it much yet, but it seems to acknowledge that most people use tabs as a form of less permanent bookmarks, and for that it seems perfect.
- yoz-y 5y agoBecause control elements that change size and move around are bad. In Safari's case that would be the address bar.
- _rutinerad 5y agoI use safari exclusively at work and at home. It’s just a better browser; simpler, faster and behaves like a Mac app should. The only things I miss about chrome are the plugin ecosystem and the (better) address bar suggestions.
- weikju 5y agoWhich is strange because displaying the full URL is an option in the Safari Preferences (on macOS, not on iOS)...
- kalleboo 5y ago> the hidden URL is one reason for this It's super easy to turn off in Safari Preferences though. Certainly easier than installing another browser.
- onion2k 5y agoTo turn it off you first need to know that Safari is doing something to the domain. That requires some basic understanding of URL structures that non-technical users don't have. They often won't go looking for an option because they don't know there's another way to view addresses. This is the main problem with options over good defaults. An option requires enough understanding of the domain to realise that there might be other choices. It also requires enough knowledge to make that choice, especially for something that affects security (knowing if you're on a malicious website) but looks like a simple visual change (simplified URLs).
- anoncake 5y agoA user that uses Chrome because Safari simplifies the URL must be aware that Safari simplifies the URL.
- onion2k 5y agoThey're probably only aware that Safari and Chrome display different things in the address bar. If they don't like Safari they'll switch to something they prefer. Usually it'll follow a pattern like: "Hey friend, my browser is a bit rubbish, I can't see the page I'm on." Friend uses Chrome and demonstrates how it doesn't do that. "My friend's browser is better because the URL is clearer. I'll swap to that one." Non-technical users will usually follow recommendations like that before they considering looking for an option to make the browser work the way they want it to. Configuration isn't something most users do unless it's either suggested by the application or there's a button literally in front of them.
- Grustaf 5y agoIf you're not technical enough to see what the specific difference is between https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=27470241&goto=item%3Fid%3D27469534%2327470241 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=27470241&goto=item%3Fi... and https://news.ycombinator.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/ then why would you actually need to see the full URL? Come to that, why would _anyone_ who isn't debugging a REST API need to see the full URL?
- Grustaf 5y agoJust out of curiosity, are all your Mac friends web developers or is there some reason a normal user would want to see the entire URL?