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Were you saying something racist? I'm just asking.

by hashkb 5y ago

krastanov 5y ago
Come on, really!? In a discussion about how trolls use "I am just asking", you decided that doing the same is a good idea. I am not op, but I have been accused of sealioning in the exact opposite direction: I was defending some curriculum based on ideas from critical race theory. Edit: Well, as the comment below alluded to, I probably missed a pretty obvious piece of sarcasm... This is certainly funny in hindsight.
- walrus01 5y ago
  One of the difficult parts of text based debate and discussion is that it's impossible to determine from vocal inflection, tone of voice and method of delivery whether someone is genuinely a fool, simply cosplaying as one, being sarcastic or facetious, etc.
  - hashkb 5y ago
    Oh, I'm definitely, genuinely a fool. For ever trying to get a point across on the internet.
- hashkb 5y ago
  Sorry it wasn't clear. I tried to be as extreme as possible to avoid being taken seriously. (Although I guess these days that works the other way.)
  - krastanov 5y ago
    You are all good! I feel like such a fool :D
  - danaris 5y ago
    You have fallen afoul of Poe's Law. Basically, it is now impossible to make a point by attempting to present an absurdly extreme viewpoint in the opposite direction, because too many of us have encountered people who genuinely espouse viewpoints even more extreme. (As well as the exact one you said—no matter what it happens to be.) If you want to present such a thing sarcastically, you're gonna have to make an explicit indication of your sarcasm (even just a "/s" at the end is usually enough). Otherwise, you're very likely to just be taken as meaning it sincerely.
    - hashkb 5y ago
      /s takes all the fun out of it. If someone initially thinks I'm serious, someone else gets an opportunity to explain a joke, which is a rare pleasure. But of course we all know confronting someone directly about their opinion always works.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  They're not the exact opposite.

Were you saying something racist? I'm just asking.

by hashkb 5y ago

Were you saying something racist? I'm just asking.

Come on, really!? In a discussion about how trolls use "I am just asking", you decided that doing the same is a good idea. I am not op, but I have been accused of sealioning in the exact opposite direction: I was defending some curriculum based on ideas from critical race theory. Edit: Well, as the comment below alluded to, I probably missed a pretty obvious piece of sarcasm... This is certainly funny in hindsight.

walrus01 5y ago
One of the difficult parts of text based debate and discussion is that it's impossible to determine from vocal inflection, tone of voice and method of delivery whether someone is genuinely a fool, simply cosplaying as one, being sarcastic or facetious, etc.
- hashkb 5y ago
  Oh, I'm definitely, genuinely a fool. For ever trying to get a point across on the internet.
hashkb 5y ago
Sorry it wasn't clear. I tried to be as extreme as possible to avoid being taken seriously. (Although I guess these days that works the other way.)
- krastanov 5y ago
  You are all good! I feel like such a fool :D
- danaris 5y ago
  You have fallen afoul of Poe's Law. Basically, it is now impossible to make a point by attempting to present an absurdly extreme viewpoint in the opposite direction, because too many of us have encountered people who genuinely espouse viewpoints even more extreme. (As well as the exact one you said—no matter what it happens to be.) If you want to present such a thing sarcastically, you're gonna have to make an explicit indication of your sarcasm (even just a "/s" at the end is usually enough). Otherwise, you're very likely to just be taken as meaning it sincerely.
  - hashkb 5y ago
    /s takes all the fun out of it. If someone initially thinks I'm serious, someone else gets an opportunity to explain a joke, which is a rare pleasure. But of course we all know confronting someone directly about their opinion always works.
betwixthewires 5y ago
They're not the exact opposite.