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They may not have the answers, but you would think they would have a better idea of where to look than someone with no medical experience at all.
by Quillbert182 5y ago
They may not have the answers, but you would think they would have a better idea of where to look than someone with no medical experience at all.
- ceejayoz 5y agoPeople think that, but there’s basically nothing in nursing or anesthesia training that’s gonna deal much with the nitty gritty details of vaccines and how they’re developed and tested. It’s like asking a car mechanic about steel production. Entirely out of their wheelhouse, even if they deal with the steel daily. (Both could comfortably tell you masks don’t cause hypoxia or pneumonia, though.)
- lethologica 5y agoIt’s a starting point though. How often do you get to your answers immediately without having to go through some dead ends and wrong turns? That’s how learning works.
- ceejayoz 5y ago> It’s a starting point though. The point is that the nurse and the car mechanic are at about the same starting point on the subject. Being willing to learn is great, but they have minimal extant knowledge from their profession.
- macksd 5y agoEveryone seems to be missing the part of the story where I actually got connections and introductions to others in the medical field and got an answer, and the part where an anesthesiologist actually gave me what turned out to be a pretty good guess at the answer because they DO understand biology in general better than me and hey do have to learn a lot about the immune system even if they specialty isn't vaccines. My point was that the less educated someone is in the medical field in general, the less willing they seem to be to entertain a genuine question, and this is the opposite of being "pro-science". It's only a step above being an anti-vaxxer because they choose better experts to listen to.
- ceejayoz 5y agoI didn't miss it, but it proves my point. > Eventually someone referred me to their cousin in nursing school who referred me to their brother-in-law who is actually an epidemiologist... This could've happened if their cousin was a car mechanic who had a brother-in-law with an epidemiologist. The nursing aspect of the story was irrelevant to the end result.
- XorNot 5y agoThere's also nothing in medical doctor training, as well. Or in fact in most specialist training - e.g. my father-in-law who's an ObGyn couldn't you how an mRNA vaccine works beyond what he learns from reading the same material I can - it's not a relevant part of his training beyond "they work and here's the list you should be giving babies as soon as possible". Medical professions, the ones you interact with as a patient are essentially highly specialized mechanics for the human body.
- tshaddox 5y agoWhy do you think that? Perhaps they might have access to some paywalled medical journals, but other than that I don't see why they would have a better idea of where to look than an interested and scientifically literate person who hasn't been to medical school or practiced medicine.
- macksd 5y agoIn the end, I got my answer because somebody in the medical field made personal introductions until I got an actual expert working in the field. So clearly it's not such a moronic approach.