> I think its somewhat naive to think that it won't be hard to surpass the JVM. Go already surpasses the JVM in many areas, for example it has magnitude orders

> I think its somewhat naive to think that it won't be hard to surpass the JVM. Go already surpasses the JVM in many areas, for example it has magnitude orders lower memory usage, and even in performance it already beats it in quite a few benchmarks, see: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=go&lang2=java http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64/benchmark.php?test=all... And this is without the simple optimizations that are coming soon to Go, and even after that Go still will be able to improve performance greatly without too much effort.