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This thread is a hilarious game of "I'm better than you because I know real farmers". For some reason, certain occupations seem to bring out a sanctimonious att

This thread is a hilarious game of "I'm better than you because I know real farmers". For some reason, certain occupations seem to bring out a sanctimonious attitude in people that nobody can understand it if they're not personally doing it themselves, combined with a failure to recognize that those occupationists are diverse and one person's personal friends might feel differently from another group or even the majority.

celticninja 5y ago
It's not "I know..." It's "you are making stupid assumptions" and you haven't read the article.
baryphonic 5y ago
I must say, I find this response a bit odd. Just for reference, a billionaire US presidential candidate last year said[0]: > I could teach anybody—even people in this room so no offense intended—to be a farmer. It's a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, add water, up comes the corn. I've seen this kind of attitude toward lower-status occupations from fellow engineers and other educated professional types, and I find it distasteful. Unlike some other occupations which also provoke a "sanctimonious attitude" (such as, say, education, despite almost all of us having extensive experience with it as a consumer or product or something), farming seems like a blind spot for almost all educated professionals. I know I'm profoundly ignorant of how all of the different types of food I eat are produced. Everything I learn about the field - and I'm not naturally interested in it - makes me feel even more uninformed about all of the factors that go into producing and distributing food. That indicates to me that farmers, whom we depend on, absolutely deserve some respect and deference. When a common sentiment among this class is that farming can be reduced to simply putting some dirt over a hole with a seed inside, knowing an actual farmer is probably pretty valuable, even if that farmer isn't representative of farmers as a whole. Farming seems to be one of the few occupations where this "sanctimonious attitude" seems justifiable. [0]https://www.newsweek.com/mike-bloombergs-elitist-farming-comments-could-hillary-clinton-deplorables-moment-that-poses-1487999 https://www.newsweek.com/mike-bloombergs-elitist-farming-com...
redis_mlc 5y ago
> certain occupations seem to bring out a sanctimonious attitude in people that nobody can understand it if they're not personally doing it themselves Justifiably so. Farming is not like watering a house plant. Imagine taking all your money, gambling it on land, seed and equipment, and either having too much rain or a drought. Then do that 50 years in a row without rolling snake eyes. Your HN farming romance will be over in days. It's a high-stakes occupation with outcomes that you can't control. I've worked on farms, and have relatives who own farms. There is nothing glamorous, and most of them have winter jobs in the city to finance their farm hobby, which is what it is. I appreciate each day that I "work" in IT.

celticninja 5y ago

It's not "I know..." It's "you are making stupid assumptions" and you haven't read the article.

baryphonic 5y ago

I must say, I find this response a bit odd. Just for reference, a billionaire US presidential candidate last year said[0]: > I could teach anybody—even people in this room so no offense intended—to be a farmer. It's a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, add water, up comes the corn. I've seen this kind of attitude toward lower-status occupations from fellow engineers and other educated professional types, and I find it distasteful. Unlike some other occupations which also provoke a "sanctimonious attitude" (such as, say, education, despite almost all of us having extensive experience with it as a consumer or product or something), farming seems like a blind spot for almost all educated professionals. I know I'm profoundly ignorant of how all of the different types of food I eat are produced. Everything I learn about the field - and I'm not naturally interested in it - makes me feel even more uninformed about all of the factors that go into producing and distributing food. That indicates to me that farmers, whom we depend on, absolutely deserve some respect and deference. When a common sentiment among this class is that farming can be reduced to simply putting some dirt over a hole with a seed inside, knowing an actual farmer is probably pretty valuable, even if that farmer isn't representative of farmers as a whole. Farming seems to be one of the few occupations where this "sanctimonious attitude" seems justifiable. [0]https://www.newsweek.com/mike-bloombergs-elitist-farming-comments-could-hillary-clinton-deplorables-moment-that-poses-1487999 https://www.newsweek.com/mike-bloombergs-elitist-farming-com...

redis_mlc 5y ago

> certain occupations seem to bring out a sanctimonious attitude in people that nobody can understand it if they're not personally doing it themselves Justifiably so. Farming is not like watering a house plant. Imagine taking all your money, gambling it on land, seed and equipment, and either having too much rain or a drought. Then do that 50 years in a row without rolling snake eyes. Your HN farming romance will be over in days. It's a high-stakes occupation with outcomes that you can't control. I've worked on farms, and have relatives who own farms. There is nothing glamorous, and most of them have winter jobs in the city to finance their farm hobby, which is what it is. I appreciate each day that I "work" in IT.