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What do “Russians, north Koreans , Egyptians ,.. ,” have to do with Xinjiang?
by xtian 5y ago
What do “Russians, north Koreans , Egyptians ,.. ,” have to do with Xinjiang?
- zepto 5y agoThey don’t have anything to do with Xinjiang. But you seem to be evading the point. As far as I can see, you think the reports are lies but you have presented literally no evidence to support this claim. Everything else you mention is simply a well known list of negative statements about the US that are indeed bad, but not directly relevant. How about you list some negatives about China and the CCP that would lend credence to the claims about Xinjiang?
- xtian 5y agoThere’s plenty of evidence here: https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang It’s up to you whether you think it casts reasonable doubt on the claims of US corporate-owned media.
- zepto 5y agoSo it seems like you have nothing bad to say about China that could lend credence to any of the reports. The only story you want to tell is that Xinjiang is a fiction made up by US interests.
- xtian 5y agoWhy do I need to say something bad about China? I’m a US citizen. That’s the only country I have any chance of impacting through criticism.
- zepto 5y agoBecause your claim is that the US is lying about Xinjiang and your argument is based solely on its political interest and its reputation. If we are evaluating the claims on that basis, we need to include China’s national interest and reputation too. The us may have reasons for lying but so may the CCP. If we are interested in the truth we must consider both. > impacting through criticism. Because the criticism needs to be accurate in order to be meaningful.
- xtian 5y ago> Because your claim is that the US is lying about Xinjiang and your argument is based solely on its political interest and its reputation. No it’s not. Here’s some more evidence: https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1367632236007202819 https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1367632236007202819
- zepto 5y ago> That’s the only country I have any chance of impacting through criticism. So what you are doing here is activism.
- xtian 5y agoWhat are the people claiming there’s a genocide doing?
- zthrowaway 5y agoGee, I don’t know, maybe trying to hold China accountable in hopes that they stop torturing and exterminating a sub-culture of their population… because it’s wrong?
- sudosysgen 5y agoThis is pretty bizarre. If they were doing so, why would anyone think that online criticism on an American forum would do anything to help? There is quite literally nothing that could be done about cultural genocide by a hostile superpower. There is already inherent value is trying to debate the truth, so I'm not saying you should stop if you genuinely believe what you're saying. But you're definitely not holding anyone accountable or doing anything to help the situation.
- zepto 5y agoPublishing news articles. So, this is activism on your part. Thanks for confirming that.