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Instead of 100% return to the office how about having (optional) get together offline meetup every once in a while, it can be about work or simple lunch.
by matz1 5y ago
Instead of 100% return to the office how about having (optional) get together offline meetup every once in a while, it can be about work or simple lunch.
- ebiester 5y agoHow do you do that when everyone lives x,000 miles away now? Why would I stay in <big city close enough to commute> and pay <outrageous> rent/mortgage if I'm remote? (Honest truth: that's what remoter weeks are for.)
- CoastalCoder 5y agoCould flying the remote staff to an in-person meeting every 1-2 months be a good balance? As long as the flights are reasonably short (e.g., within the continental U.S. or within the E.U.), it's probably still cheaper than maintaining office space for the remote workers.
- ghaff 5y agoQuarterly is more doable. That's basically what my extended team did pre-pandemic.
- throwaway_25434 5y agoAnd now you are discriminating against senior people with family/kids who just can’t fly out of town for a week every couple months.
- matz1 5y agoat some point, you just have to say : well that's too bad.
- ghaff 5y agoQuarterly (or less often) is every 3 months. And at least all the senior people I work with already travel a lot more often that that under normal circumstances. People can and should absolutely pick the jobs that work for them. And that may include positions where you go into an office daily and rarely travel. But, traveling to an off/on-site every few months for a work week is probably one of the costs you pay if you want to be remote. If you want a position that is 100% remote that never requires you to physically leave your home, you're welcome to look for such. But don't expect a lot of options at a well-paying tech job. Unless you can do something as a remote consultant.
- irq 5y ago> If you want a position that is 100% remote that never requires you to physically leave your home, you're welcome to look for such. Every job I've had from 2010 to 2021 has been like this. Some had optional but not required in person meetups, some had no meetups. These jobs are not hard to find if you have a good reputation for being effective remotely.
- ghaff 5y agoI don't disagree. But being well-known as a good 100% remote worker will be a high bar for a lot of people. (As is, at least your implication, of relatively short-term stints.) Most of my jobs have been in the ~10 year range.
- enobrev 5y agoJust chiming in to say some of us live in the big expensive cities precisely because of the life we lead outside of work. Otherwise, agreed.
- robotburrito 5y agoBecause there is more to life than work and cheap rent. Large cities are cultural hubs with thousands of interesting people and many wonderful things to experience.