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What does cut off means? If you add a lot of files to your S3, does it mean S3 should stop allowing more uploads or should AWS start deleting your files?

by aynyc 5y ago

Thetawaves 5y ago
"Your storage device is full." Why should this be any different?
- aynyc 5y ago
  But you still have to pay for long term storage, that means your bill is still going up.
  - Spooky23 5y ago
    Ever use Glacier? Obviously, the good analysts at AWS have the talent to cook up complex billing models.
    - aynyc 5y ago
      Did AWS make Glacier free? At the end of the day, you are renting hardware, not buying it. I do think AWS should've done a better job at billing notification and documenting the potential disaster.
quickthrower2 5y ago
Definitely stop more uploads. Deleting files is nasty but I don’t see an alternative. But there must be lots of alerts if they do this! Limit set separately for backups would make sense so you can recover. Even if your production limit starts chaos monkeying.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
  That's why you can define billing actions, arbitrary lambdas executed when you hit the limit you set. It's impossible to have a sensible strategy for everyone.
aprdm 5y ago
Should be configurable! For many use cases deleting is fine, i.e: side projects
- aynyc 5y ago
  You know what the next post is going to be, right? AWS auto delete my EC2 with all my source code and data on it because my billing alert was too low!
lostdog 5y ago
> What does cut off mean? AWS probably has a thousand product manager and tens of thousands of engineers, and can't come up with some reasonable options for default limitations? I bet that these 10x overruns have common causes: infinite bandwidth, infinite storage, and autoscaling to infinite compute. Your 1 TB of storage and 3 EC2 instance isn't causing the problem, and doesn't need to be deleted. Limit growth and you'd probably satisfy nearly all problems. I'm not saying there's a simple solution, but I'm sure there is a reasonable solution, and AWS is a big place with lots of resources, and should be able to figure out how to let you set budgets like everywhere else you'd buy something from.
- bcrl 5y ago
  Here's a question: how would preventing you from spending more money make Amazon more money? Hint: it won't. Features that generate more revenue are prioritized over those which will decrease or limit revenue growth.

What does cut off means? If you add a lot of files to your S3, does it mean S3 should stop allowing more uploads or should AWS start deleting your files?

by aynyc 5y ago

What does cut off means? If you add a lot of files to your S3, does it mean S3 should stop allowing more uploads or should AWS start deleting your files?

Thetawaves 5y ago

"Your storage device is full." Why should this be any different?

aynyc 5y ago
But you still have to pay for long term storage, that means your bill is still going up.
- Spooky23 5y ago
  Ever use Glacier? Obviously, the good analysts at AWS have the talent to cook up complex billing models.
  - aynyc 5y ago
    Did AWS make Glacier free? At the end of the day, you are renting hardware, not buying it. I do think AWS should've done a better job at billing notification and documenting the potential disaster.

quickthrower2 5y ago

Definitely stop more uploads. Deleting files is nasty but I don’t see an alternative. But there must be lots of alerts if they do this! Limit set separately for backups would make sense so you can recover. Even if your production limit starts chaos monkeying.

isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
That's why you can define billing actions, arbitrary lambdas executed when you hit the limit you set. It's impossible to have a sensible strategy for everyone.

aprdm 5y ago

Should be configurable! For many use cases deleting is fine, i.e: side projects

aynyc 5y ago
You know what the next post is going to be, right? AWS auto delete my EC2 with all my source code and data on it because my billing alert was too low!

lostdog 5y ago

> What does cut off mean? AWS probably has a thousand product manager and tens of thousands of engineers, and can't come up with some reasonable options for default limitations? I bet that these 10x overruns have common causes: infinite bandwidth, infinite storage, and autoscaling to infinite compute. Your 1 TB of storage and 3 EC2 instance isn't causing the problem, and doesn't need to be deleted. Limit growth and you'd probably satisfy nearly all problems. I'm not saying there's a simple solution, but I'm sure there is a reasonable solution, and AWS is a big place with lots of resources, and should be able to figure out how to let you set budgets like everywhere else you'd buy something from.

bcrl 5y ago
Here's a question: how would preventing you from spending more money make Amazon more money? Hint: it won't. Features that generate more revenue are prioritized over those which will decrease or limit revenue growth.