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I'm with you. I will not buy a vehicle of any kind that is sending telemetry or tracking without my express written consent. This includes ICE cars made after

I'm with you. I will not buy a vehicle of any kind that is sending telemetry or tracking without my express written consent. This includes ICE cars made after 2018 that may have ODB3 and send GPS, emission, speed and other data to 3rd parties. I accept that I will be paying a premium to keep older vehicles running. I am about to donate my old truck to a charity and will get a less old truck after I leave California.

e40 5y ago
> This includes ICE cars made after 2018 that have ODB3 and send GPS, emission, speed and other data to 3rd parties. I googled for this and could find no info. Please give a reference for this claim.
- LinuxBender 5y ago
  In fact all the links to forums discussing this appear to have been wiped from Google and Bing. Perhaps this topic is off limits for now. I can still find the older articles talking about privacy concerns, but the forums where people were explaining how to disable it have vanished.
- mardifoufs 5y ago
  > > This includes ICE cars made after 2018 that have ODB3 and send GPS, emission, speed and other data to 3rd parties. > I googled for this and could find no info. Please give a reference for this claim. I can't even seem to find any reference to odb 3 existing at all in the first place. So yeah any link would be very much appreciated
  - xxpor 5y ago
    I'd assume they meant OBD3 http://straighttalkautomotive.com/articles/have-you-heard-of-%20obd-iii.html http://straighttalkautomotive.com/articles/have-you-heard-of... It's mostly about surfacing the codes via a screen in the car instead of having a generic check engine light and needing an external scanner. As far as I can tell, it was never mandated. Most posts about it are from ~2011.