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I've been on Firefox for a few years now and it irritates me how super slow it is. Version 89 seems to be a bit better though. I know it might be the extension

I've been on Firefox for a few years now and it irritates me how super slow it is. Version 89 seems to be a bit better though. I know it might be the extensions (I have 20+) but I seriously don't care. Chrome manages to be fast with the same set of extensions. I don't like Google but Firefox's slowness is a real strain on my productivity and brain well-being. Hope they improve even more soon. I am on an iMac Pro btw. Stuff like this should not ever happen on a workstation.

eingaeKaiy8ujie 5y ago
Not sure if this would help in your case but try to enable `gfx.webrender.all` or `layers.acceleration.force-enabled` in `about:config` if it's not already enabled.
- pdimitar 5y ago
  Only the second one was disabled, enabled it. Thanks for the tip!
  - eingaeKaiy8ujie 5y ago
    In that case it won't make a difference I think, `gfx.webrender.all` should override `layers.acceleration.force-enabled`.
drunner 5y ago
Well, that's part of the issue. On macOS, all browsers are just skins over Safari. Google obviously has more resources to make this work better but I agree, overall I always found Chrome better than Firefox on macOS. You can't really compare that to a native linux/windows experience.
- pdimitar 5y ago
  Wait what?! I thought this only applied to iOS / iPadOS. You're telling me Firefox under macOS is using Safari's engine? If so, wow. Extremely disappointing.
  - anthonyvd 5y ago
    No, the parent is incorrect. This is only true on iOS/iPadOS.
- rpy 5y ago
  You’re thinking of iOS. On macOS third party browsers can and do implement their own browser engines. Firefox is not running on WebKit.
- svieira 5y ago
  On macOS all browsers are distinct engines, just like on Windows and Linux (yes, and on Open/Free BSD, Haiku, etc. I see you). It's on iOS that all browsers must be skins over Safari.
- Idiot211 5y ago
  That certainly doesn't seem quite right, have you got any sources for this?
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
guywhocodes 5y ago
What is it that is slow, are you on OS X?
- pdimitar 5y ago
  Yes. Often times pages load very slowly, we're talking 5-8 seconds. I am on a gigabit connection (yes, that doesn't guarantee that my ISP has fast access to that particular page, I know) and Chrome is always loading those pages at least twice as fast. Can't describe it perfectly. The UI is responsive but page loading is just severely slowed down -- not always but often. I have a bunch of privacy extensions but again, they don't seem to make Chrome sweat.
  - gorhill 5y ago
    > Often times pages load very slowly, we're talking 5-8 seconds [...] I have a bunch of privacy extensions If you are using uBlock Origin, you may want to see if un-checking "Uncloak canonical names" option in the "Settings" pane in the dashboard makes a difference.[1] There have been reports of slow page load with some network configurations, and this has been linked to DNS lookup in uBO.[2] Chromium-based browsers do not support CNAME-uncloaking, and so this would explain why the issue is not present in Google Chrome. * * * [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dashboard:-Settings#uncloak-canonical-names https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dashboard:-Settings#u... [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1694404 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1694404
    - pdimitar 5y ago
      Super interesting, thank you! I immediately disabled it and will monitor if that improves my page loading speeds. EDIT: pay no attention to the text below, I have misread the linked documentation. uBO isn't using external proxy for any network requests. Not sure how much -- or at all -- you're involved with uBO. Your name does ring a bell though so I'd like to remark to you that making the users' browser use proxy is a step too far. It shouldn't automatically be enabled. A privacy extension should do everything it could locally and stop there. If I one day figure it's not enough then I'll set a privacy VPN (or use an existing one). I don't want that decision made for me on my own machine without my consent. :( And apologies if my comment is misguided -- I only skimmed the linked page and I might have misunderstood.
sixothree 5y ago
Strange. I find Chrome to be annoying and slow.

eingaeKaiy8ujie 5y ago

Not sure if this would help in your case but try to enable `gfx.webrender.all` or `layers.acceleration.force-enabled` in `about:config` if it's not already enabled.

pdimitar 5y ago
Only the second one was disabled, enabled it. Thanks for the tip!
- eingaeKaiy8ujie 5y ago
  In that case it won't make a difference I think, `gfx.webrender.all` should override `layers.acceleration.force-enabled`.

drunner 5y ago

Well, that's part of the issue. On macOS, all browsers are just skins over Safari. Google obviously has more resources to make this work better but I agree, overall I always found Chrome better than Firefox on macOS. You can't really compare that to a native linux/windows experience.

pdimitar 5y ago
Wait what?! I thought this only applied to iOS / iPadOS. You're telling me Firefox under macOS is using Safari's engine? If so, wow. Extremely disappointing.
- anthonyvd 5y ago
  No, the parent is incorrect. This is only true on iOS/iPadOS.
rpy 5y ago
You’re thinking of iOS. On macOS third party browsers can and do implement their own browser engines. Firefox is not running on WebKit.
svieira 5y ago
On macOS all browsers are distinct engines, just like on Windows and Linux (yes, and on Open/Free BSD, Haiku, etc. I see you). It's on iOS that all browsers must be skins over Safari.
Idiot211 5y ago
That certainly doesn't seem quite right, have you got any sources for this?
deleted 5y ago
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guywhocodes 5y ago

What is it that is slow, are you on OS X?

pdimitar 5y ago
Yes. Often times pages load very slowly, we're talking 5-8 seconds. I am on a gigabit connection (yes, that doesn't guarantee that my ISP has fast access to that particular page, I know) and Chrome is always loading those pages at least twice as fast. Can't describe it perfectly. The UI is responsive but page loading is just severely slowed down -- not always but often. I have a bunch of privacy extensions but again, they don't seem to make Chrome sweat.
- gorhill 5y ago
  > Often times pages load very slowly, we're talking 5-8 seconds [...] I have a bunch of privacy extensions If you are using uBlock Origin, you may want to see if un-checking "Uncloak canonical names" option in the "Settings" pane in the dashboard makes a difference.[1] There have been reports of slow page load with some network configurations, and this has been linked to DNS lookup in uBO.[2] Chromium-based browsers do not support CNAME-uncloaking, and so this would explain why the issue is not present in Google Chrome. * * * [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dashboard:-Settings#uncloak-canonical-names https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dashboard:-Settings#u... [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1694404 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1694404
  - pdimitar 5y ago
    Super interesting, thank you! I immediately disabled it and will monitor if that improves my page loading speeds. EDIT: pay no attention to the text below, I have misread the linked documentation. uBO isn't using external proxy for any network requests. Not sure how much -- or at all -- you're involved with uBO. Your name does ring a bell though so I'd like to remark to you that making the users' browser use proxy is a step too far. It shouldn't automatically be enabled. A privacy extension should do everything it could locally and stop there. If I one day figure it's not enough then I'll set a privacy VPN (or use an existing one). I don't want that decision made for me on my own machine without my consent. :( And apologies if my comment is misguided -- I only skimmed the linked page and I might have misunderstood.

sixothree 5y ago

Strange. I find Chrome to be annoying and slow.