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I think it’s missing the point to say it’s alt-left. In the Uk side of things it was always true r uk was left and r ukpolitics was right, and then there was a

I think it’s missing the point to say it’s alt-left. In the Uk side of things it was always true r uk was left and r ukpolitics was right, and then there was a fascinating shift in various ways during election times. But either way the core of the issue was just that whatever the prevailing view is drives out disagreements. Twitter is bad because bubbles form and then they collide causing fights. Reddit solves this by making the bubbles much stronger and ensuring they never collide.

beervirus 5y ago
And then banning the bubbles that engage in wrongthink.
- mcherm 5y ago
  Honestly, I think there has been very little banning of bubbles for "wrongthink", it's mostly been banning of bubbles for "wrongbehavior".
  - prepend 5y ago
    I think it’s wrongthink or potential wrongbehavior. An example is there was a exhibitionist nsfw subreddit, and it was shut down because people kept flagging non-offending posts as nonconsensual. Even though the literal subjects would post stuff like “that’s me, it’s cool.” The sub was removed. Tons of examples like this. It’s not that big of a deal and no major harm. Just part of the reason I think Reddit sucks and I don’t go there. The little serendipitous fun of the internet was all over Reddit. Now it feels like a totally lame person lames over everything.
  - dude187 5y ago
    That's not really a fair depiction though. They ban based on "wrongthink", because active disagreement of many things is considered "wrongbehavior". The end result is a reinforcement loop of the echo chamber, with a widening of what is considered "wrong"
bb123 5y ago
I'm interested in your personal experience with r/uk vs r/ukpolitics. I've stopped reading either as to me it seemed that they both had a pretty strong auth-left bias. I felt this was more pronounced in r/uk - to the point that it was/is a continuous stream of Twitter style hot takes. Although I suspect most of the readership/commenters are edgy 16 year olds so it's probably an unfair expectation that any of the discussion would be particularly nuanced. UK based threads on HN seem far more level headed.

beervirus 5y ago

And then banning the bubbles that engage in wrongthink.

mcherm 5y ago
Honestly, I think there has been very little banning of bubbles for "wrongthink", it's mostly been banning of bubbles for "wrongbehavior".
- prepend 5y ago
  I think it’s wrongthink or potential wrongbehavior. An example is there was a exhibitionist nsfw subreddit, and it was shut down because people kept flagging non-offending posts as nonconsensual. Even though the literal subjects would post stuff like “that’s me, it’s cool.” The sub was removed. Tons of examples like this. It’s not that big of a deal and no major harm. Just part of the reason I think Reddit sucks and I don’t go there. The little serendipitous fun of the internet was all over Reddit. Now it feels like a totally lame person lames over everything.
- dude187 5y ago
  That's not really a fair depiction though. They ban based on "wrongthink", because active disagreement of many things is considered "wrongbehavior". The end result is a reinforcement loop of the echo chamber, with a widening of what is considered "wrong"

bb123 5y ago

I'm interested in your personal experience with r/uk vs r/ukpolitics. I've stopped reading either as to me it seemed that they both had a pretty strong auth-left bias. I felt this was more pronounced in r/uk - to the point that it was/is a continuous stream of Twitter style hot takes. Although I suspect most of the readership/commenters are edgy 16 year olds so it's probably an unfair expectation that any of the discussion would be particularly nuanced. UK based threads on HN seem far more level headed.