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> "young people don't die from COVID" type mentality. What mentality is this? It is well known that young people are at extremely low risk of dying, even more
by bobthechef 5y ago
> "young people don't die from COVID" type mentality.
What mentality is this? It is well known that young people are at extremely low risk of dying, even more so than the average person.
> He told us the day after being in close contact for 3 days, that he tested positive and had symptoms during our contact with him.
The problem wasn't that your acquaintance refused the vaccine. The problem is that he didn't stay home. You could say the same thing about the flu. If you have it, don't go to parties. Who goes to a party with a flu? A cold even?
I hardly think this guy is representative. There's also evidence that asymptomatic people don't spread COVID. This would mean that if they don't have symptoms, you won't get it, and if they do and they're like most people, they'll stay home which means no transmission.
> Of the unvaccinated [sic] people I know, this mentality is the large majority of them. They refuse to get vaccinated because they refuse to consider how their actions might actually impact someone else.
This seems unnecessarily hostile. Plenty of people don't want to be vaccinated either because they've had COVID and don't need it (this study isn't the first; Peter McCullough for example has spoken about other studies), they don't want to risk the potential side effects, including long term, of an experimental vaccine that is not technically approved by the FDA, ethical/religious reasons (the use of stem cell lines derived from aborted children during vaccine research, etc), and because the virus is not a serious threat to most people.
It is disturbing how the media is lumping those wary of the COVID vaccine in with antivaxers (~2% of the population; 98% of Americans get all common immunizations), COVID deniers, or "grandma killers". Let's not do that, as the OP recommends.
- cstejerean 5y ago> There's also evidence that asymptomatic people don't spread COVID. This would mean that if they don't have symptoms, you won't get it, and if they do and they're like most people, they'll stay home which means no transmission. We wouldn’t be in the middle of a pandemic if this were true.
- ping_pong 5y agoThere a difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic.
- tomp 5y agoParent poster actually meant presymptomatic. > This would mean that if they don't have symptoms, you won't get it
- rimliu 5y agoWhy so? Or are you mixing up asymptomatic with presymptomatic, as many do? It is clear that latter do indeed play a big role in spreading infection, but the science is not so clear on the former. Likely that asymptomatic do not spread it.
- jokethrowaway 5y agoIt's been a pretty mild pandemic. What has been newsworthy about was the removal of freedom, not the number of dead people. It's flu-like transmission - which is mostly through droplets. If you're not sneezing in the face of people you don't have high chances of passing it around
- galoisgirl 5y agoIt's the 9th pandemic in human history in the number of deaths: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics#Major_epidemics_and_pandemics_by_death_toll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics#Major_epidem...
- briefcomment 5y agoLooks like it's much lower than 9th population adjusted.
- neilwilson 5y agoOne of the unfortunate things about SARS2 is that there is reasonable evidence of some asymptomatic spread. Particularly the recent Japanese study[0] "When taken together, I think these two studies show that people with asymptomatic covid-19 can and do spread the disease, and the best estimate from both studies is that those with symptomatic disease are about three to four times more infectious than those with asymptomatic disease. That is not a huge difference. Even though people with symptoms are a couple of times more infectious than people without symptoms, those without symptoms could still be causing more infections overall." [0] https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/06/06/can-asymptomatic-people-spread-covid-19/ https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/06/06/can-asymptomatic-p...