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I for one like the single store because it creates consistency. For developers, for privacy info, for subscriptions. If sideloading is allowed when then malwar

I for one like the single store because it creates consistency. For developers, for privacy info, for subscriptions. If sideloading is allowed when then malware is also close to get on the phone. Not my phone probably but the average joe, my family members, students, etc.

p1necone 5y ago
> I for one like the single store because it creates consistency. For developers, for privacy info, for subscriptions. So... don't use other app stores? Nobody is forcing you to. > If sideloading is allowed when then malware is also close to get on the phone. Not my phone probably but the average joe, my family members, students, etc. Average Joe's aren't even going to know that sideloading apps is an option, let alone know how to do it. And if you're worried about grandma/kids doing something silly there's parental controls for this sort of thing. There just needs to be a way for power users to use other apps.
- martimarkov 5y ago
  Well that’s not true. Let’s just look at game stores. It’s super fragmented because companies want to control everything. They optimise for profit not end-user experience. On the other hand within the iOS ecosystem the store optimises for the end-user (more or less). So enabling different stores will create a more fractured ecosystem. Something that hinders my experience. Why would I support this? I’d only support it if: * All apps from other stores are always in the App Store * All apps still use the in-app payment functionality and not some 3rd party system that I’m not sure steals my data. I’m also okay if the apps are forced to use Apple Pay if they don’t want to use in-app purchase functionality. With that said I don’t see how any of those can be enforced. What is essentially going to happen is to lower the overall security of apps on the iOS platform.
  - manigandham 5y ago
    > "It’s super fragmented" So what? There's multiple options. That's called choice and competition, which is helping drive new features and better pricing. > "With that said I don’t see how any of those can be enforced." Draconic measures like that are being enforced, which why other app stores are wanted in the first place. Your entire argument seems to be that other stores are bad because of "fracturing" the market, yet desktop/macos users manage just fine, even with an app store on that platform. You're imagining a challenge that doesn't exist.

p1necone 5y ago

> I for one like the single store because it creates consistency. For developers, for privacy info, for subscriptions. So... don't use other app stores? Nobody is forcing you to. > If sideloading is allowed when then malware is also close to get on the phone. Not my phone probably but the average joe, my family members, students, etc. Average Joe's aren't even going to know that sideloading apps is an option, let alone know how to do it. And if you're worried about grandma/kids doing something silly there's parental controls for this sort of thing. There just needs to be a way for power users to use other apps.

martimarkov 5y ago
Well that’s not true. Let’s just look at game stores. It’s super fragmented because companies want to control everything. They optimise for profit not end-user experience. On the other hand within the iOS ecosystem the store optimises for the end-user (more or less). So enabling different stores will create a more fractured ecosystem. Something that hinders my experience. Why would I support this? I’d only support it if: * All apps from other stores are always in the App Store * All apps still use the in-app payment functionality and not some 3rd party system that I’m not sure steals my data. I’m also okay if the apps are forced to use Apple Pay if they don’t want to use in-app purchase functionality. With that said I don’t see how any of those can be enforced. What is essentially going to happen is to lower the overall security of apps on the iOS platform.
- manigandham 5y ago
  > "It’s super fragmented" So what? There's multiple options. That's called choice and competition, which is helping drive new features and better pricing. > "With that said I don’t see how any of those can be enforced." Draconic measures like that are being enforced, which why other app stores are wanted in the first place. Your entire argument seems to be that other stores are bad because of "fracturing" the market, yet desktop/macos users manage just fine, even with an app store on that platform. You're imagining a challenge that doesn't exist.