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Thank you. While there is no data to back up some of these numbers, at least they are offered up. I have often wondered what amounts Meth addicts were using do
by zafka 5y ago
Thank you. While there is no data to back up some of these numbers, at least they are offered up. I have often wondered what amounts Meth addicts were using do cause their severe issues.
- wincy 5y agoMy neighbors teeth are falling out. Salesman, honestly pretty successful guy, making 6 figures. Apparently he takes 120mg if Adderall to wake up in the morning. At that dose, he’s basically just getting Walter White quality meth for his morning pick me up.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoHis teeth are far more likely to be falling out because of bad oral hygiene for a decade earlier in life than they are because of a low dose of Adderal or anything. If 120mg of Adderal made your teeth fall out then tons more people would have their teeth falling out.
- wincy 5y agoTo be clear, 120mg is what he takes first thing in the morning. He takes more throughout the day. I’d guess he takes 500+ in a day.
- arthurcolle 5y agoThat is impossible. There is no one someone's heart would be able to take that. I take 60 mg daily of Vyvanse and I'm pretty wired all day. I can't even fathom the effects of that on a human body. Is he like 300 lbs?
- cwkoss 5y ago500mg/day was the figure cited for heavy users in the OP article. You're right that 500mg is far into overdose territory for novice users. But, he probably has been using for a long time and has a very high tolerance.
- salawat 5y agoI've done 70mg Vyvanse followed by 50mg Adderall in the evening. The Vyvanse way amplified aggressive and confrontational tendencies for me though. I miss having time for hobbies however. Usually bounce between 240-270lbs.
- arthurcolle 5y agoyeah same, Vyvanse is a wild drug. it has less euphoria which I prefer because I hate the cracked out feeling in combination with the euphoria, but it definitely makes you incredibly amped up. Glad you found a system that works for you (not doing it) haha.
- kache_ 5y agoAre there "tons of people" seriously taking 120mg of adderall?
- arthurcolle 5y agoNo, that is far beyond the daily dosage threshold. Even 90 is extremely high for XR, and would probably be broken into 2 45 doses throughout the day.
- salawat 5y agoIt happens. Trust me. I'd still be doing it if I weren't getting increasingly pissed how Schedule 2 turns you into a second class citizen effectively in the United States. (You can't fill across State lines anymore, and insurance puts up astronomical red tape to dispensing more than a month at a time thanks to DEA quantity limits.)
- thebean11 5y agolol at 120 being a low dose. You start on 10-20.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoThe max approved prescribed dose is 60mg per day, so at that point he's probably doing something illegal.
- wincy 5y agoOh for sure, the reason I found out about it is that he asked to buy mine, and I declined. I have too much to lose, a wife a kid and a good job, to be slinging Schedule 2 drugs for a couple hundred bucks a month. Plus I actually take my dose as prescribed. He moved away though, thank goodness.
- salawat 5y agoSaid like someone who has never dealt with clinical tolerance before. I've been up in that territory before. Even that was done under the regular visits to a therapist. I've dedicated myself to suffering through learning how to cope with a lower, highly tolerance dampened dose. I will say there are days I miss it terribly. It's a bit like having an overclocked capacity to process information and learn. The multi-month adaptation process to the decreased dose is quite literally like being brain-starved. You want to think, you know you could at one point but you just can't get things to fire as fast as they used to. You dampen your ability to forge paths of understanding in novel contexts, but the trade off is you're cut off emotionally from anyone around you because no one else is holding onto or working with the context you can throw around. When the impedance mismatch is that high, misanthropy is a hazard one has to actively decultivate. The practical upshot of coming down from it after acquiring your context/understanding though is you tend to generalize what you learned and render it more communicable. The anhedonia is also a #$&-+. Point being, the medical literature is based on averages. Not everybody lives in the hump of a Gaussian distribution.
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