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My coworker's kid uses zerotier to maintain a private gaming network with static IPs for all their friends. Does your system have anything similar or is it just

My coworker's kid uses zerotier to maintain a private gaming network with static IPs for all their friends. Does your system have anything similar or is it just out in the open? Taking a cursory glance at your page it's hard to tell exactly what is being done. Looks cool though.

patricklorio 5y ago
This system is a little simpler, it creates a public endpoint that will tunnel traffic to the game server over the playit program. So when the program and game server are running, anyone can connect to the server through the public address. It has the advantage that only the server needs to run a program. It also does a few tricks like mapping each client's public IP to a LAN IP like 127.5.21.3 so ip banning / whitelisting still works in game.
- sockaddr 5y ago
  Gotcha, nice work
infogulch 5y ago
Does this also work for consoles or just pcs?
- patricklorio 5y ago
  At the moment the program only run on PCs, however a few users have figured out how to run it on mobile. But that's just for the server, the server that is tunneled can be connected to by anything. We have a few users hosting Minecraft Bedrock servers that are being connected to by mobile and consoles.
  - oauea 5y ago
    How are people tunneling their console over the zerotier vpn? I assume this requires zerotier to be installed on the gateway, which is a bit beyond most users sadly :(
    - patricklorio 5y ago
      Oh, I was speaking for playit.gg, not sure about zerotier. I misread the comment thread.
    - atatatat 5y ago
      > a few users have figured out how to run it on mobile Mobile hotspot//USB tether forwarding your VPN.
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      I tunneled my switch through a VPN by entering it in the switch's proxy settings. That wasn't especially challenging. It does mean you can unlock predownloaded time-gated games about 18 hours early, though.
sjnair96 5y ago
Just fyi, I've found Tailscale to be excellent for this purpose. I just created a new google account, for sharing with friends and family to log in to tailscale, and it's completely free. A relay on my Raspberry pi allow me to expose select devices to those connected to my tailscale. Easy, magical NAT traversal. - https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works/ https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works/ Edit: Oh wow. I just ran into innernet. Looks like a self-hosted FOSS alternative to tailscale, and also cool blog - https://blog.tonari.no/introducing-innernet https://blog.tonari.no/introducing-innernet
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  Looks like innernet relies on third party "Nebula" from "Slack Technologies" (commercialised IRC) which uses 70.199.182.92. Perhaps the definition of "self-hosted" varies from person to person. The definition I subscribe to for "self-hosted" peer-to-peer is that I have to supply the publicly reachable IP address and run a supernode on it. (I prefer supernodes that only provide IP:port information for peers to directly connect and do not pass any traffic once the peers are connected.) Many of the so-called "peer-to-peer" projects I see today provide the IP address of a server run by a third party as part of their default configuration, with the option that a user could run their own server on their own IP address. (How many users do that.) Under the definition I subscribe to, nothing is for "free". I have to pay for the publicly reachable IP address and run the supernode from that address. Under another person's definition of "self-hosted", a third party might be hosting a necessary server. If they stop providing that service, the "self-hosted" solution no longer works.
  - jauer 5y ago
    Your understanding of how Nebula works is incorrect. If you checked Nebula's readme you'd see the following: > Nebula lighthouses allow nodes to find each other, anywhere in the world. A lighthouse is the only node in a Nebula network whose IP should not change. Running a lighthouse requires very few compute resources, and you can easily use the least expensive option from a cloud hosting provider. If you're not sure which provider to use, a number of us have used $5/mo DigitalOcean droplets as lighthouses. Beyond that, innernet does not run on nebula.

patricklorio 5y ago

This system is a little simpler, it creates a public endpoint that will tunnel traffic to the game server over the playit program. So when the program and game server are running, anyone can connect to the server through the public address. It has the advantage that only the server needs to run a program. It also does a few tricks like mapping each client's public IP to a LAN IP like 127.5.21.3 so ip banning / whitelisting still works in game.

sockaddr 5y ago
Gotcha, nice work

infogulch 5y ago

Does this also work for consoles or just pcs?

patricklorio 5y ago
At the moment the program only run on PCs, however a few users have figured out how to run it on mobile. But that's just for the server, the server that is tunneled can be connected to by anything. We have a few users hosting Minecraft Bedrock servers that are being connected to by mobile and consoles.
- oauea 5y ago
  How are people tunneling their console over the zerotier vpn? I assume this requires zerotier to be installed on the gateway, which is a bit beyond most users sadly :(
  - patricklorio 5y ago
    Oh, I was speaking for playit.gg, not sure about zerotier. I misread the comment thread.
  - atatatat 5y ago
    > a few users have figured out how to run it on mobile Mobile hotspot//USB tether forwarding your VPN.
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    I tunneled my switch through a VPN by entering it in the switch's proxy settings. That wasn't especially challenging. It does mean you can unlock predownloaded time-gated games about 18 hours early, though.

sjnair96 5y ago

Just fyi, I've found Tailscale to be excellent for this purpose. I just created a new google account, for sharing with friends and family to log in to tailscale, and it's completely free. A relay on my Raspberry pi allow me to expose select devices to those connected to my tailscale. Easy, magical NAT traversal. - https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works/ https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works/ Edit: Oh wow. I just ran into innernet. Looks like a self-hosted FOSS alternative to tailscale, and also cool blog - https://blog.tonari.no/introducing-innernet https://blog.tonari.no/introducing-innernet

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
Looks like innernet relies on third party "Nebula" from "Slack Technologies" (commercialised IRC) which uses 70.199.182.92. Perhaps the definition of "self-hosted" varies from person to person. The definition I subscribe to for "self-hosted" peer-to-peer is that I have to supply the publicly reachable IP address and run a supernode on it. (I prefer supernodes that only provide IP:port information for peers to directly connect and do not pass any traffic once the peers are connected.) Many of the so-called "peer-to-peer" projects I see today provide the IP address of a server run by a third party as part of their default configuration, with the option that a user could run their own server on their own IP address. (How many users do that.) Under the definition I subscribe to, nothing is for "free". I have to pay for the publicly reachable IP address and run the supernode from that address. Under another person's definition of "self-hosted", a third party might be hosting a necessary server. If they stop providing that service, the "self-hosted" solution no longer works.
- jauer 5y ago
  Your understanding of how Nebula works is incorrect. If you checked Nebula's readme you'd see the following: > Nebula lighthouses allow nodes to find each other, anywhere in the world. A lighthouse is the only node in a Nebula network whose IP should not change. Running a lighthouse requires very few compute resources, and you can easily use the least expensive option from a cloud hosting provider. If you're not sure which provider to use, a number of us have used $5/mo DigitalOcean droplets as lighthouses. Beyond that, innernet does not run on nebula.