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If you think that was disturbing, check out the substack linked to the twitter account. Full on nut job.

world_peace42 5y ago
I clicked it. Looks like he's a Republican and a Christian (and has pretty standard opinions for that intersection) who likes to write long political essays. Are you sure he's a nut job, or could you possibly just be a bigot?
- chki 5y ago
  These are literally two out of the first four paragraphs I read when clicking on that link: >Dearest Friends & Fellow Americans, The eminent trial of our Age is upon us. Those whose courage fails them now, who shrink from the fight, and sit idly while the very foundations of our nation collapse should sit in shame; but those that stand boldly by the Constitution deserve the eternal thanks of all mankind. Malignant tyranny, like other pogroms of the past, are no simple feat to overcome; Yet we know also through the trials of history that the greater the force of evil, the more august the achievement. > The Malignant States, the Federal Government, and the Tech Politburo have avowed to create and enforce a progressive establishment that places Marxist Race Doctrine, Anti-American Sentiment, and Western-averse Cultural and Governmental Practices at the forefront of legal and social policy and have declared that they will fully enchain the American populace to this destructive course. Edit: I hope that nobody thinks that's still "Christian and Republican", right? Even if you're extremely critical of current developments it's certainly crazy to call those a "pogrom".
  - cosmojg 5y ago
    And? Honestly, these are pretty damn tame. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. While I personally disagree with at least one of the statements you quoted and some other ideas held by the author, many of the ideas presented in the posted Twitter thread still stand. Ad hominem attacks are worthless in a discussion of ideas.
    - chki 5y ago
      >Ad hominem attacks are worthless in a discussion of ideas. Some of the conspiracy theories are part of the twitter thread. It's entirely reasonable to discuss these here, especially if the thread and account get this amount of attention. >Honestly, these are pretty damn tame. Comments like this one make me seriously fear for the political system of the United States. If that's "tame" I do not know what isn't.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  COVID denialism, election denialism, and “The Great Reset” are high profile crank subjects. Being a conservative Christian doesn’t make you a crank; those things do.
  - waheoo 5y ago
    You're just going by the comment above aren't ya there bud? The great reset is something that was discussed in the open, even if it is pretty lol. Covid lab leak looks highly likely at this point, multiple governments around the world are now owning up to the bullshit they fed us we knew were lies all along, fake news msnbc is literally on the record promoting propaganda against trump and purposely downplaying if not dismissing any news that may potentially help the man. While not widespread, nor anywhere near enough to tip the election, voter fraud was very real, every instance of it was dismissed and ignored when some of it very much needed further investigation. Oh and those peaceful protests never were. This is me, a liberal. I'm not a Republican or a crazed conservative, I just have by eyes open and don't give a crap what tribe you're on.
  - world_peace42 5y ago
    I remember last year when believing COVID may have come out of a lab made one a crank. It was only on certain news channels or specific papers. Of course, let's also assume there are no widespread liberal beliefs (the world is going to end in 12 years) that should label someone as a crank.
    - rrose 5y ago
      "the world is going to end in 12 years" is not a widespread belief, liberal or otherwise
      - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
        I believe that this claim refers to some of the more extreme climate alarmists. Claims that at least sound like this have in fact been made.
- mech422 5y ago
  I clicked it, read some of it.. I think he's all 3
- rfw300 5y ago
  If that guy’s views are typical of the class, that says more about the class than anyone judging the guy.
- sidlls 5y ago
  Nah, having views that divorced from reality is crazy, plain and simple. It's also dangerous, as the ongoing insurrection against the US government shows. It's not bigotry to call them out for how outlandish and insane their beliefs are.
  - world_peace42 5y ago
    Nothing is bigotry if there are enough bigots. And, as everyone knows, HN is a one-party site, so I'm not expecting many upvotes.
    - sidlls 5y ago
      Yeah, democratic partisans are terrible, too, and just about as divorced from reality.
      - bobthechef 5y ago
        Yes, except the Left is in control of the establishment. Through Hollywood, the media, and academe (all notoriously Left-leaning), it has elevated its own conspiracy theories and prejudices to the level of respectable opinion or fact. Except for a few minor politicians, stuff like QAnon remains little more than an inconsequential wacky belief, regardless of what the fear-mongering rags try to say. Crazy ideas come about naturally, but the political opportunists know when to fan the flames of those ideas if it benefits them. You don't necessarily need a central planning committee to benefit from insanity. In the case of COVID, the sad tactic that's used to discredit anyone, even highly respected people in medicine, when they depart in the slightest from the flaky "official narrative" is to either silence such people immediately across all friendly channels, ridicule them, or to dredge up some completely preposterous claim and poisoning the well, etc., essentially claiming that anyone who disagrees with the official party line is like the guy who believes that lizard people run the world. Nothing you can really do about it. You can't pry the scales from people's eyes, especially if they like them just where they are. I'm pretty sure the inner coating on those scales is reflective.
    - rrose 5y ago
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- burkaman 5y ago
  The first post calls for a nationwide armed militia to protect "conservative" society from its fellow "progressive" citizens. I don't know if this is standard, but it is not a good idea, and it is not bigoted to call it crazy. Anybody anywhere in the modern world who calls for an armed force to be created explicitly in the name of "God Almighty" (or some synonym of that) is crazy.
- kev_tech 5y ago
  Yea, he's a nut job.
- russellbeattie 5y ago
  After 500k COVID deaths and the events of January 6th, I now consider anyone spouting these sorts of delusional right-wing conspiracies to be potentially dangerous sociopaths who need to be addressed accordingly. Nut job is too kind. We can no longer afford to play along, pretending that sedition and lies are acceptable because they are just normal "conservative opinion".
- iso1210 5y ago
  > has pretty standard opinions for that intersection If that's true, that's a major problem that the US needs to solve

I clicked it. Looks like he's a Republican and a Christian (and has pretty standard opinions for that intersection) who likes to write long political essays. Are you sure he's a nut job, or could you possibly just be a bigot?

chki 5y ago
These are literally two out of the first four paragraphs I read when clicking on that link: >Dearest Friends & Fellow Americans, The eminent trial of our Age is upon us. Those whose courage fails them now, who shrink from the fight, and sit idly while the very foundations of our nation collapse should sit in shame; but those that stand boldly by the Constitution deserve the eternal thanks of all mankind. Malignant tyranny, like other pogroms of the past, are no simple feat to overcome; Yet we know also through the trials of history that the greater the force of evil, the more august the achievement. > The Malignant States, the Federal Government, and the Tech Politburo have avowed to create and enforce a progressive establishment that places Marxist Race Doctrine, Anti-American Sentiment, and Western-averse Cultural and Governmental Practices at the forefront of legal and social policy and have declared that they will fully enchain the American populace to this destructive course. Edit: I hope that nobody thinks that's still "Christian and Republican", right? Even if you're extremely critical of current developments it's certainly crazy to call those a "pogrom".
- cosmojg 5y ago
  And? Honestly, these are pretty damn tame. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. While I personally disagree with at least one of the statements you quoted and some other ideas held by the author, many of the ideas presented in the posted Twitter thread still stand. Ad hominem attacks are worthless in a discussion of ideas.
  - chki 5y ago
    >Ad hominem attacks are worthless in a discussion of ideas. Some of the conspiracy theories are part of the twitter thread. It's entirely reasonable to discuss these here, especially if the thread and account get this amount of attention. >Honestly, these are pretty damn tame. Comments like this one make me seriously fear for the political system of the United States. If that's "tame" I do not know what isn't.
woodruffw 5y ago
COVID denialism, election denialism, and “The Great Reset” are high profile crank subjects. Being a conservative Christian doesn’t make you a crank; those things do.
- waheoo 5y ago
  You're just going by the comment above aren't ya there bud? The great reset is something that was discussed in the open, even if it is pretty lol. Covid lab leak looks highly likely at this point, multiple governments around the world are now owning up to the bullshit they fed us we knew were lies all along, fake news msnbc is literally on the record promoting propaganda against trump and purposely downplaying if not dismissing any news that may potentially help the man. While not widespread, nor anywhere near enough to tip the election, voter fraud was very real, every instance of it was dismissed and ignored when some of it very much needed further investigation. Oh and those peaceful protests never were. This is me, a liberal. I'm not a Republican or a crazed conservative, I just have by eyes open and don't give a crap what tribe you're on.
- world_peace42 5y ago
  I remember last year when believing COVID may have come out of a lab made one a crank. It was only on certain news channels or specific papers. Of course, let's also assume there are no widespread liberal beliefs (the world is going to end in 12 years) that should label someone as a crank.
  - rrose 5y ago
    "the world is going to end in 12 years" is not a widespread belief, liberal or otherwise
    - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
      I believe that this claim refers to some of the more extreme climate alarmists. Claims that at least sound like this have in fact been made.
mech422 5y ago
I clicked it, read some of it.. I think he's all 3
rfw300 5y ago
If that guy’s views are typical of the class, that says more about the class than anyone judging the guy.
sidlls 5y ago
Nah, having views that divorced from reality is crazy, plain and simple. It's also dangerous, as the ongoing insurrection against the US government shows. It's not bigotry to call them out for how outlandish and insane their beliefs are.
- world_peace42 5y ago
  Nothing is bigotry if there are enough bigots. And, as everyone knows, HN is a one-party site, so I'm not expecting many upvotes.
  - sidlls 5y ago
    Yeah, democratic partisans are terrible, too, and just about as divorced from reality.
    - bobthechef 5y ago
      Yes, except the Left is in control of the establishment. Through Hollywood, the media, and academe (all notoriously Left-leaning), it has elevated its own conspiracy theories and prejudices to the level of respectable opinion or fact. Except for a few minor politicians, stuff like QAnon remains little more than an inconsequential wacky belief, regardless of what the fear-mongering rags try to say. Crazy ideas come about naturally, but the political opportunists know when to fan the flames of those ideas if it benefits them. You don't necessarily need a central planning committee to benefit from insanity. In the case of COVID, the sad tactic that's used to discredit anyone, even highly respected people in medicine, when they depart in the slightest from the flaky "official narrative" is to either silence such people immediately across all friendly channels, ridicule them, or to dredge up some completely preposterous claim and poisoning the well, etc., essentially claiming that anyone who disagrees with the official party line is like the guy who believes that lizard people run the world. Nothing you can really do about it. You can't pry the scales from people's eyes, especially if they like them just where they are. I'm pretty sure the inner coating on those scales is reflective.
  - rrose 5y ago
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burkaman 5y ago
The first post calls for a nationwide armed militia to protect "conservative" society from its fellow "progressive" citizens. I don't know if this is standard, but it is not a good idea, and it is not bigoted to call it crazy. Anybody anywhere in the modern world who calls for an armed force to be created explicitly in the name of "God Almighty" (or some synonym of that) is crazy.
kev_tech 5y ago
Yea, he's a nut job.
russellbeattie 5y ago
After 500k COVID deaths and the events of January 6th, I now consider anyone spouting these sorts of delusional right-wing conspiracies to be potentially dangerous sociopaths who need to be addressed accordingly. Nut job is too kind. We can no longer afford to play along, pretending that sedition and lies are acceptable because they are just normal "conservative opinion".
iso1210 5y ago
> has pretty standard opinions for that intersection If that's true, that's a major problem that the US needs to solve