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I don't get why the train attendant has to be able to move the train. That's not required in the driverless systems I know. Either the train is unable to move a

I don't get why the train attendant has to be able to move the train. That's not required in the driverless systems I know. Either the train is unable to move and has to stop immediately, or it tries to drive to the next station, right? The only job then for the attendant is to guide the passengers to safety and watch out for unruly passengers. I know Nurembergs underground quite well and it just works. No platform doors and no attendants. For the exceptional case that the train is unable to drive itself without an accident occurs a special team should be enough. I don't remember that it happened for the nuremberg underground.

johannes1234321 5y ago
Nuremberg is a small town where emergency personal, which can drive the train can be deployed quickly to all locations, without having lots of on call staff ready. Deploying this in London is a different challenge. However I agree that with remote control the need should be mostly avoidable.
- LeanderK 5y ago
  Well, that's true but then the emergency personal could at least just be spread around in the city. I don't think the response time should be that critical, if the train is burning nobody is needed to drive it to the next station, assuming staff is on the train that knows the emergency procedures. They should only need it for technical problems.
  - johannes1234321 5y ago
    For some scale: The shortest line in London (ignoring 2.5km Waterloo &City) is Victoria line with 21km. The longest line, U1, in Nuremberg is 18.5km and still doesn't run automated. They started with U3, which is running 9.2km. Even with only two ready rooms maximum distance is 2.5km, which can be travelled in a few minutes in case of emergency (using a car and emergency signals it's less than 5 minutes, but of course getting underground and from nearest entry point to train will take longer)

johannes1234321 5y ago

Nuremberg is a small town where emergency personal, which can drive the train can be deployed quickly to all locations, without having lots of on call staff ready. Deploying this in London is a different challenge. However I agree that with remote control the need should be mostly avoidable.

LeanderK 5y ago
Well, that's true but then the emergency personal could at least just be spread around in the city. I don't think the response time should be that critical, if the train is burning nobody is needed to drive it to the next station, assuming staff is on the train that knows the emergency procedures. They should only need it for technical problems.
- johannes1234321 5y ago
  For some scale: The shortest line in London (ignoring 2.5km Waterloo &City) is Victoria line with 21km. The longest line, U1, in Nuremberg is 18.5km and still doesn't run automated. They started with U3, which is running 9.2km. Even with only two ready rooms maximum distance is 2.5km, which can be travelled in a few minutes in case of emergency (using a car and emergency signals it's less than 5 minutes, but of course getting underground and from nearest entry point to train will take longer)