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In train accidents, usually the first compositions are the most badly hit. The train driver is the most susceptible to die. You're better assisted by a remote o
by hobbes78 5y ago
In train accidents, usually the first compositions are the most badly hit. The train driver is the most susceptible to die. You're better assisted by a remote operator...
- e17 5y agoThat's in the very narrow situation of a head-on collision, something I don't think has happened on the tube in my lifetime. I'm talking about any kind of general emergency. I remember 7/7/05 like it was yesterday.
- KineticLensman 5y agoThe 1975 Moorgate accident [0] was a single train accident that killed 43 people including the driver, who failed to brake his train as he approached a dead end. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorgate_tube_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorgate_tube_crash
- e17 5y agoAnything from a more relevant era, perhaps one in which passengers aboard an underground train weren't allowed to smoke a cigar?
- Symbiote 5y agoThere's a list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_London_Underground_accidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_London_Underground_acc...
- e17 5y agoAssuming you've read the list, you will know that the answer is no. No head-on tube collisions in my lifetime or in any other relevant modern era of any definition.
- KineticLensman 5y ago> Anything from a more relevant era Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_London_Underground_accidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_London_Underground_acc... Incidentally, I narrowly avoided one of these accidents: The Kings Cross fire of 1987 [1] which killed 31 people. This was caused by a fire under a (wooden) escalator that hadn't been cleaned. I passed through about an hour before the fire started. I was returning from a conference in London. A friend and I had planned to have a quick pint before travelling back but he felt ill so we didn't. Otherwise we would have been right in it. This was before mobile phones so my wife saw the event on the news and was of course desperately concerned that I had been it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Cross_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Cross_fire
- e17 5y agoThis subthread you are commenting on is about head-on collisions. There have been none since 1975 and I think you will agree that given that passengers on that train were wearing hats and smoking pipes, it's not particularly relevant to any kind of modern railway.
- KineticLensman 5y ago>> I'm talking about any kind of general emergency. Hence me posting the list of general accidents
- e17 5y ago> The train driver is the most susceptible to die. You're better assisted by a remote operator The driver didn't die in any of the recent incidents, so they would still be in place to manage the situation. Interestingly, 7/7/05 isn't on the list, presumably because it wasn't an accident. That's exactly the kind of incident that is relevant in the context of this parent thread.
- KineticLensman 5y agoIt would be interesting to where on the train is statistically the most survivable. > Interestingly, 7/7/05 isn't on the list, presumably because it wasn't an accident Yes, would also be interesting to know how many crime / related incidents are 'managed' by crew or station staff.
- AshamedCaptain 5y agoEven on a derailment, the driver seems also likely to die. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_Metro_derailment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_Metro_derailment