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It was just an old meme and it was in my native language so you wouldn't get, but the offensive part of it is simply 'bitch'. Not as a direct insult, but kinda

by ttt0 5y ago

It was just an old meme and it was in my native language so you wouldn't get, but the offensive part of it is simply 'bitch'. Not as a direct insult, but kinda like in "surprise, bitch". Another thing is that I got suspended for butting in to a conversation about homosexuality where someone was saying that homosexuality is natural, and I said something to the extent of "rape and murder is natural too" to point out the fallacy and they sent me on a 30-day vacation from Facebook for that.

robotdongs 5y ago
First off, a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. Second, not that this was your intent, but that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy that I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, whether or not it should be is a separate discussion. As a side-note, pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy.
- babypuncher 5y ago
  Merely pointing out a logical fallacy is not itself a fallacy. It can be used to discredit a bad argument. It becomes a fallacy when you say Opinion X is wrong because its proponents used fallacious Argument Y.
- ttt0 5y ago
  > a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. I left Facebook few years ago. I can't really back it up with anything, but I have a suspicion that this is the main reason why people are leaving Facebook. Not concerns about privacy. > that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy That's a really common example to show the flaws in appeal to nature argument and pretty much the best you can make, because not many people support rape and murder. That's the point. > I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, And that's the problem. Just as I said, your intentions don't matter and if someone interprets it as hateful then you're out. It's completely arbitrary. > pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does. Depends on what the argument and the context is.
theiafan 5y ago
Way to bury the lede. You got banned for posting an offensive slurish meme in the middle of a conversation that you self-admittedly interjected into in order to compare two people of the same gender loving each other to murder. Yes, you're such a victim, a key part of the usual formula. Slow clap for the mods. Let this guy parrot his low-key right wing shit on this website, but the second someone calls out the usual bullshit for what it is, it gets flagged.
- ttt0 5y ago
  People flagged down your BS, you're such a victim too. But I did you a favor and vouched for your comment. These were two completely separate situations. The fun part in the "slurish meme" ban is that it was some ancient comment, that I believe was made before they even implemented their hate speech policy. Someone was just going through my history to look for comments I could get banned for when I was voicing my opinions on local, mundane politics that were completely irrelevant to anyone except people who live in my area. That's not what happened. Someone said "I think X because Y" and I said "Z is also Y, and yet Z is a bad thing". That is not comparing X to Z.

by ttt0 5y ago

robotdongs 5y ago

First off, a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. Second, not that this was your intent, but that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy that I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, whether or not it should be is a separate discussion. As a side-note, pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy.

babypuncher 5y ago
Merely pointing out a logical fallacy is not itself a fallacy. It can be used to discredit a bad argument. It becomes a fallacy when you say Opinion X is wrong because its proponents used fallacious Argument Y.
ttt0 5y ago
> a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. I left Facebook few years ago. I can't really back it up with anything, but I have a suspicion that this is the main reason why people are leaving Facebook. Not concerns about privacy. > that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy That's a really common example to show the flaws in appeal to nature argument and pretty much the best you can make, because not many people support rape and murder. That's the point. > I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, And that's the problem. Just as I said, your intentions don't matter and if someone interprets it as hateful then you're out. It's completely arbitrary. > pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does. Depends on what the argument and the context is.

theiafan 5y ago

Way to bury the lede. You got banned for posting an offensive slurish meme in the middle of a conversation that you self-admittedly interjected into in order to compare two people of the same gender loving each other to murder. Yes, you're such a victim, a key part of the usual formula. Slow clap for the mods. Let this guy parrot his low-key right wing shit on this website, but the second someone calls out the usual bullshit for what it is, it gets flagged.

ttt0 5y ago
People flagged down your BS, you're such a victim too. But I did you a favor and vouched for your comment. These were two completely separate situations. The fun part in the "slurish meme" ban is that it was some ancient comment, that I believe was made before they even implemented their hate speech policy. Someone was just going through my history to look for comments I could get banned for when I was voicing my opinions on local, mundane politics that were completely irrelevant to anyone except people who live in my area. That's not what happened. Someone said "I think X because Y" and I said "Z is also Y, and yet Z is a bad thing". That is not comparing X to Z.