I do like how most people here sort of forgot that a decent amount of people in ops(especially in bigger enterprise company) are not programmer and at most have

I do like how most people here sort of forgot that a decent amount of people in ops(especially in bigger enterprise company) are not programmer and at most have shell scripting experience and thats about it, telling them to "use a real programming language" is going to create some "fun" issues (atleast HCL is consistent)