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> The knowledge that hundreds of millions of people in the richest country that has ever existed live like that sickens me. This should make you feel better. P

> The knowledge that hundreds of millions of people in the richest country that has ever existed live like that sickens me. This should make you feel better. Poor kids with leukemia would get CHIP in the US[0]. Similarly depending on your mother's age she may qualify for Medicare[1] or if so sick that she had little to no income Medicaid[2], but since shes a retired teacher she likely would have a pension with a state provided healthcare plan. What is a problem is being lower middle class and having a chronic condition that is not disabling, too poor to afford insurance yet not poor enough for assistance. [0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Insurance_Program https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Insuranc... [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States) [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid

SQueeeeeL 5y ago
I'm glad that the poor can get healthcare as long as they know enough trivia and minutiae of govt programs and can wade through bureaucracy. Clearly it's a working system and much better than universal healthcare
- willcipriano 5y ago
  That's not my claim, just correcting a common misconception that apparently caused the OP emotional distress.
  - SQueeeeeL 5y ago
    Listing these programs in such a way essentially blames these people for not having healthcare. In reality, these programs barely accomplish their goals, because the mental overload of 1) being aware of their existence 2) knowing you're eligible and 3) fulfilling all the bureaucratic requirements makes the utility of these programs by the old, poor or young incredibly difficult.
    - willcipriano 5y ago
      Tens of millions of Americans already participate in these programs, nearly a third of the population. People deeply concerned with the healthcare in the US could assist in educating others about the options available to them as well as navigating the bureaucratic red tape. I never see this sort of messaging from these groups though, likely because it weakens their argument. Rather perversely it may be that they would allow the truly sick to suffer needlessly in hopes of obtaining socialized medicine for themselves.

SQueeeeeL 5y ago

I'm glad that the poor can get healthcare as long as they know enough trivia and minutiae of govt programs and can wade through bureaucracy. Clearly it's a working system and much better than universal healthcare

willcipriano 5y ago
That's not my claim, just correcting a common misconception that apparently caused the OP emotional distress.
- SQueeeeeL 5y ago
  Listing these programs in such a way essentially blames these people for not having healthcare. In reality, these programs barely accomplish their goals, because the mental overload of 1) being aware of their existence 2) knowing you're eligible and 3) fulfilling all the bureaucratic requirements makes the utility of these programs by the old, poor or young incredibly difficult.
  - willcipriano 5y ago
    Tens of millions of Americans already participate in these programs, nearly a third of the population. People deeply concerned with the healthcare in the US could assist in educating others about the options available to them as well as navigating the bureaucratic red tape. I never see this sort of messaging from these groups though, likely because it weakens their argument. Rather perversely it may be that they would allow the truly sick to suffer needlessly in hopes of obtaining socialized medicine for themselves.