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They may start doing so, if said providers start banning and censoring people based on political beliefs as Google does.

babypuncher 5y ago
I don't think I've seen anyone get banned from any major platform for their political beliefs. It has always been for hate speech, inciting real-world violence, or spreading blatantly false misinformation that lead to incitements of violence (such as the unfounded claims that the election was stolen). Funny how none of the Republicans pushing this censorship narrative batted an eye last summer when Facebook was taking down local BLM groups that called for violence.
- ttt0 5y ago
  I got banned from Facebook for swearing basically. Someone took it as 'cyberbullying' or whatever nonsense. I tried to appeal explaining my intentions, but they basically told me that my intentions don't matter. By the way, spreading misinformation like the infamous lab leak theory? Facebook fact checkers are a joke, they're fact checking stupid memes.
  - NationalPark 5y ago
    What was it specifically that got you banned?
    - ttt0 5y ago
      It was just an old meme and it was in my native language so you wouldn't get, but the offensive part of it is simply 'bitch'. Not as a direct insult, but kinda like in "surprise, bitch". Another thing is that I got suspended for butting in to a conversation about homosexuality where someone was saying that homosexuality is natural, and I said something to the extent of "rape and murder is natural too" to point out the fallacy and they sent me on a 30-day vacation from Facebook for that.
      - robotdongs 5y ago
        First off, a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. Second, not that this was your intent, but that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy that I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, whether or not it should be is a separate discussion. As a side-note, pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy.
        babypuncher 5y ago
        Merely pointing out a logical fallacy is not itself a fallacy. It can be used to discredit a bad argument. It becomes a fallacy when you say Opinion X is wrong because its proponents used fallacious Argument Y.
        ttt0 5y ago
        > a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. I left Facebook few years ago. I can't really back it up with anything, but I have a suspicion that this is the main reason why people are leaving Facebook. Not concerns about privacy. > that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy That's a really common example to show the flaws in appeal to nature argument and pretty much the best you can make, because not many people support rape and murder. That's the point. > I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, And that's the problem. Just as I said, your intentions don't matter and if someone interprets it as hateful then you're out. It's completely arbitrary. > pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does. Depends on what the argument and the context is.
      - theiafan 5y ago
        Way to bury the lede. You got banned for posting an offensive slurish meme in the middle of a conversation that you self-admittedly interjected into in order to compare two people of the same gender loving each other to murder. Yes, you're such a victim, a key part of the usual formula. Slow clap for the mods. Let this guy parrot his low-key right wing shit on this website, but the second someone calls out the usual bullshit for what it is, it gets flagged.
- mansion7 5y ago
  This is the reason that is given, that you have chosen to accept. The catch is, they label their own violence as speech, and their opponents speech as violence, conveniently. Hidden camera interviews with numerous employees of the multiple tech monopolies in question reveal that not only do they in target people for censorship based upon their political beliefs and political speech, and in the service of the political parties to which they also overwhelmingly donate, but they do so with glee. The actions of Facebook, Google, Twitter in their selective banning, deplatforming, and other algorithmic weaselry is often indistinguishable from an in-kind donation directly to the DNC.
- pumaontheprowl 5y ago
  The definition of hate speech can be made to fit whatever political agenda you seek to promote. For example, you will get banned from Twitter for saying "feminism is cancer" on the basis that the statement is hate speech against women. However, saying "white lives don't matter" will not get you banned from Twitter, nor will saying "#HitlerWasRight" in regards to the Israel/Palestine conflict (both exact quotes from racist twitter users who are still on the service).

babypuncher 5y ago

I don't think I've seen anyone get banned from any major platform for their political beliefs. It has always been for hate speech, inciting real-world violence, or spreading blatantly false misinformation that lead to incitements of violence (such as the unfounded claims that the election was stolen). Funny how none of the Republicans pushing this censorship narrative batted an eye last summer when Facebook was taking down local BLM groups that called for violence.

ttt0 5y ago
I got banned from Facebook for swearing basically. Someone took it as 'cyberbullying' or whatever nonsense. I tried to appeal explaining my intentions, but they basically told me that my intentions don't matter. By the way, spreading misinformation like the infamous lab leak theory? Facebook fact checkers are a joke, they're fact checking stupid memes.
- NationalPark 5y ago
  What was it specifically that got you banned?
  - ttt0 5y ago
    It was just an old meme and it was in my native language so you wouldn't get, but the offensive part of it is simply 'bitch'. Not as a direct insult, but kinda like in "surprise, bitch". Another thing is that I got suspended for butting in to a conversation about homosexuality where someone was saying that homosexuality is natural, and I said something to the extent of "rape and murder is natural too" to point out the fallacy and they sent me on a 30-day vacation from Facebook for that.
    - robotdongs 5y ago
      First off, a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. Second, not that this was your intent, but that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy that I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, whether or not it should be is a separate discussion. As a side-note, pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy.
      - babypuncher 5y ago
        Merely pointing out a logical fallacy is not itself a fallacy. It can be used to discredit a bad argument. It becomes a fallacy when you say Opinion X is wrong because its proponents used fallacious Argument Y.
      - ttt0 5y ago
        > a 30 day vacation from Facebook sounds wonderful, it'd be a great excuse to leave it all together. I left Facebook few years ago. I can't really back it up with anything, but I have a suspicion that this is the main reason why people are leaving Facebook. Not concerns about privacy. > that's such a poor example to use in pointing out the fallacy That's a really common example to show the flaws in appeal to nature argument and pretty much the best you can make, because not many people support rape and murder. That's the point. > I can see why someone might see it as "hateful", which is against the TOS, And that's the problem. Just as I said, your intentions don't matter and if someone interprets it as hateful then you're out. It's completely arbitrary. > pointing out a logical fallacy doesn't invalidate someone's argument, ironically this is itself a fallacy. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does. Depends on what the argument and the context is.
    - theiafan 5y ago
      Way to bury the lede. You got banned for posting an offensive slurish meme in the middle of a conversation that you self-admittedly interjected into in order to compare two people of the same gender loving each other to murder. Yes, you're such a victim, a key part of the usual formula. Slow clap for the mods. Let this guy parrot his low-key right wing shit on this website, but the second someone calls out the usual bullshit for what it is, it gets flagged.
mansion7 5y ago
This is the reason that is given, that you have chosen to accept. The catch is, they label their own violence as speech, and their opponents speech as violence, conveniently. Hidden camera interviews with numerous employees of the multiple tech monopolies in question reveal that not only do they in target people for censorship based upon their political beliefs and political speech, and in the service of the political parties to which they also overwhelmingly donate, but they do so with glee. The actions of Facebook, Google, Twitter in their selective banning, deplatforming, and other algorithmic weaselry is often indistinguishable from an in-kind donation directly to the DNC.
pumaontheprowl 5y ago
The definition of hate speech can be made to fit whatever political agenda you seek to promote. For example, you will get banned from Twitter for saying "feminism is cancer" on the basis that the statement is hate speech against women. However, saying "white lives don't matter" will not get you banned from Twitter, nor will saying "#HitlerWasRight" in regards to the Israel/Palestine conflict (both exact quotes from racist twitter users who are still on the service).