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> Everyone is surprised to find the government does shady stuff I really don't understand how this is still possible with everyone having access to the Interne
by guerrilla 5y ago
> Everyone is surprised to find the government does shady stuff
I really don't understand how this is still possible with everyone having access to the Internet. They're pretty consistent [1]. It must be a bubble thing.
1. https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrociti...
- reedjosh 5y agoWow, thanks for that link.
- ljf 5y agoMan that has taken my breath away. I'm pretty aware of how terrible the west can be (and how we can lie about it) but the sheer volume there is immense.
- hnbad 5y agoWorth emphasizing, this isn't "the West", this is just the US. Not that other parts of "the West" don't warrant their own lists, but framing it this way unnecessarily cushions the blow.
- ljf 5y agoTrue true, I'm from the UK and so I see us as complicit in some of this but yes the US seems to have a pretty good go at being awful to fellow humans.
- l33t2328 5y agoYou realize that list has events going back to the 1700’s, right? If you want to talk about countries that have a pretty good go at being awful to fellow humans and we get to go that far back, I don’t think the UK would have an insignificant list.
- guerrilla 5y agoIt's kind of weird you felt the need to post this whataboutism three times in the same subthread, especially being that your main complaint is that the history is a complete history... I don't think this is the kind of behavior we want on HN.
- l33t2328 5y agoThis list contains a lot of sensationalized points. It literally has things going back to the 1700’s. With that kind of latitude you could condemn every major country.
- l33t2328 5y agoWhy would you assume the west is perfect? This list contains things from the 1700’s. Any country will have a laundry list of atrocities if we start that far back.
- unishark 5y agoPolitics is largely of a game of making simplifying over-generalizations about other people so you can attach negative labels to them.