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I got a ProtonMail account just weeks before the infamous hacking/ransom. The fact that they _paid the ransom_ made them a no-go for me, and I never started usi

by moogly 5y ago

I got a ProtonMail account just weeks before the infamous hacking/ransom. The fact that they _paid the ransom_ made them a no-go for me, and I never started using the account. Also, AIUI, the fact that their accounts are free makes the service attractive for spammers, so email sent via their mail servers tend to get marked as spam. I have since moved from Gmail to Fastmail and like it quite a lot. Any reasons for why I should reevaluate? Fastmail costs money, yes, but there are other free alternatives now like Tutanota, which I surmise has the same issue in regards to spam.

Avamander 5y ago
> infamous hacking/ransom. That was DDoS extortion, wasn't it? Probably cheaper and much faster than buying mitigation, I'd suspect they've improved in that aspect by now. > Also, AIUI, the fact that their accounts are free makes the service attractive for spammers, so email sent via their mail servers tend to get marked as spam. Not by any normal service provider.
- moogly 5y ago
  Yeah, it was DDoS. Attacks continued after they paid up, to no one's surprise. When researching what email provider to choose a few years ago, I found a lot of tales about it being a haven for spammers and with the baggage all that entails, but maybe that was pure FUD? Difficult to tell in my position.
  - Avamander 5y ago
    > I found a lot of tales about it being a haven for spammers and with the baggage all that entails, but maybe that was pure FUD? There's simply so much more lower-hanging fruit for spamming. Why deal with the mess that is signing up and all that jazz? I'd say it's definitely a risk, like with all other providers, but not more so than with others.
willis936 5y ago
>Any reasons for why I should reevaluate? That depends: are you cool with google reading your emails and selling the content to advertisers?
- moogly 5y ago
  My post made it clear I don't use Gmail.
cryptonector 5y ago
They weren't hacked though, right, just DDoSed? And they paid $6,000 and then said they'd never do it again. I think that's not a deal killer for me.
protonmail 5y ago
Since 2015, we have built an entirely independent infrastructure that we run and operate ourselves, without relying on cloud providers. This has significantly reduced the risk of us being attacked via third parties. With regards to abuse, we've invested heavily and improved the rigor of our anti-spam measures, which have been largely successful in combatting abuse. One critical differentiator between ProtonMail and Fastmail is that we have zero access encryption, which means that we cannot read or access your inbox, providing a higher level of privacy.

by moogly 5y ago

Avamander 5y ago

> infamous hacking/ransom. That was DDoS extortion, wasn't it? Probably cheaper and much faster than buying mitigation, I'd suspect they've improved in that aspect by now. > Also, AIUI, the fact that their accounts are free makes the service attractive for spammers, so email sent via their mail servers tend to get marked as spam. Not by any normal service provider.

moogly 5y ago
Yeah, it was DDoS. Attacks continued after they paid up, to no one's surprise. When researching what email provider to choose a few years ago, I found a lot of tales about it being a haven for spammers and with the baggage all that entails, but maybe that was pure FUD? Difficult to tell in my position.
- Avamander 5y ago
  > I found a lot of tales about it being a haven for spammers and with the baggage all that entails, but maybe that was pure FUD? There's simply so much more lower-hanging fruit for spamming. Why deal with the mess that is signing up and all that jazz? I'd say it's definitely a risk, like with all other providers, but not more so than with others.

willis936 5y ago

>Any reasons for why I should reevaluate? That depends: are you cool with google reading your emails and selling the content to advertisers?

moogly 5y ago
My post made it clear I don't use Gmail.

cryptonector 5y ago

They weren't hacked though, right, just DDoSed? And they paid $6,000 and then said they'd never do it again. I think that's not a deal killer for me.

protonmail 5y ago

Since 2015, we have built an entirely independent infrastructure that we run and operate ourselves, without relying on cloud providers. This has significantly reduced the risk of us being attacked via third parties. With regards to abuse, we've invested heavily and improved the rigor of our anti-spam measures, which have been largely successful in combatting abuse. One critical differentiator between ProtonMail and Fastmail is that we have zero access encryption, which means that we cannot read or access your inbox, providing a higher level of privacy.