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It's amazing what they offer for free. But it is just a bit too amazing what it will cost to move my wife and 2 kids and our domains over. It's a shame, I do re

It's amazing what they offer for free. But it is just a bit too amazing what it will cost to move my wife and 2 kids and our domains over. It's a shame, I do really want to pay them but I find it difficult to justify. Or wait, now that I check again, it changed... I see that now I can have "1 - 5000 users *" for 6.25 eur/month? Is that real? A real inbox per user? Why is it only 6 users when I go to 24 eur/month? Do they mean aliases? I think they used to mean aliases... I'm confused now. * Customizable features (:S)

9dev 5y ago
You could also consider buying a cheap, low-tier VPS somewhere and install Mailcow (https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized). Takes around half an hour to set up, flawless, worry-free, fully-featured email stack on your own infrastructure. Comes in cheaper than ProtonMail, too.
- avinassh 5y ago
  Does it filter spam well? One of the main reason I don't want to host my own email server is efficient spam filtering
  - Avamander 5y ago
    Unlikely. The threats vary tremendously and spam advances constantly. Nothing short of ML can filter "well", "good enough" maybe.
    - 9dev 5y ago
      Which is why they include rspamd, an open source ML filter. Check out the repository, it’s really a nice solution. I’m not affiliated in any way other than being a happy user.
      - Avamander 5y ago
        It takes more than just rspamd for any good mail filtering.
- monkin 5y ago
  Even if the VPS is $5 a month it’s way more than using Migadu[1] which has a $19 plan with “unlimited” domains and aliases. Not even mentioning the burden of configuring, upgrading, and maintaining mailcow. https://migadu.com https://migadu.com
  - gruez 5y ago
    but is it end to end encrypted?
    - jackson1442 5y ago
      End to end encryption in email is a myth (unless you actually go through the process of encrypting your messages with a PGP key—that can be done with any provider), all ProtonMail does is encrypt your email on receipt.
      - gruez 5y ago
        Sorry, that's what I meant. With a VPS you're in control of the retention policy. With a managed provider you basically have no idea. Encrypting on receipt mitigates this.
KingMachiavelli 5y ago
The Professional level is per user pricing and yes they are real user's. The Visionary plan is basically a discounted plan ($30/6 = $5/user vs $8/user) that has shared storage. At 4 people, the visionary plan sounds like the way to go. Prices I see are a little bit different from what you are seeing but the pricing structure should be the same.
- teekert 5y ago
  Oh yes so it’s 6.25 x the amount of users indeed. So that’s 25 a month for the family. It’s just a bit too much. I pays this per year now roughly with unlimited mailboxen. Sure, I’d pay more for ProtonMail, but not this much.

9dev 5y ago

You could also consider buying a cheap, low-tier VPS somewhere and install Mailcow (https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized). Takes around half an hour to set up, flawless, worry-free, fully-featured email stack on your own infrastructure. Comes in cheaper than ProtonMail, too.

avinassh 5y ago
Does it filter spam well? One of the main reason I don't want to host my own email server is efficient spam filtering
- Avamander 5y ago
  Unlikely. The threats vary tremendously and spam advances constantly. Nothing short of ML can filter "well", "good enough" maybe.
  - 9dev 5y ago
    Which is why they include rspamd, an open source ML filter. Check out the repository, it’s really a nice solution. I’m not affiliated in any way other than being a happy user.
    - Avamander 5y ago
      It takes more than just rspamd for any good mail filtering.
monkin 5y ago
Even if the VPS is $5 a month it’s way more than using Migadu[1] which has a $19 plan with “unlimited” domains and aliases. Not even mentioning the burden of configuring, upgrading, and maintaining mailcow. https://migadu.com https://migadu.com
- gruez 5y ago
  but is it end to end encrypted?
  - jackson1442 5y ago
    End to end encryption in email is a myth (unless you actually go through the process of encrypting your messages with a PGP key—that can be done with any provider), all ProtonMail does is encrypt your email on receipt.
    - gruez 5y ago
      Sorry, that's what I meant. With a VPS you're in control of the retention policy. With a managed provider you basically have no idea. Encrypting on receipt mitigates this.

KingMachiavelli 5y ago

The Professional level is per user pricing and yes they are real user's. The Visionary plan is basically a discounted plan ($30/6 = $5/user vs $8/user) that has shared storage. At 4 people, the visionary plan sounds like the way to go. Prices I see are a little bit different from what you are seeing but the pricing structure should be the same.

teekert 5y ago
Oh yes so it’s 6.25 x the amount of users indeed. So that’s 25 a month for the family. It’s just a bit too much. I pays this per year now roughly with unlimited mailboxen. Sure, I’d pay more for ProtonMail, but not this much.