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Tracking and tracing it from procurement as it's flowing (transported) through containers and vehicles. There are multiple companies involved and prior to this,

by 3np 5y ago

Tracking and tracing it from procurement as it's flowing (transported) through containers and vehicles. There are multiple companies involved and prior to this, trust issues have made any kind of automated, efficient and consistent end-to-end tracking system difficult to introduce. Whose servers would a non-blockchain solution run on and how could all stakeholders trust the design, implementation and operations? Blockchain makes this transparent, trustless, and auditable for everyone involved. With the new system, feedback times goes from weeks to minutes. I mean, technically, the industry got by fine prior to IT as well, relying on pen and paper and telephone. Real problems are being solved, though. You seem a bit antagonistic/skeptic; I'm just answering the question for some examples of use-cases the technology is applied to today. Consider distributed databases - unless you hit a certain scale or availability requirements, you could argue that a single centralized Postgres can solve anything and that they provide no value. You could have a successful and advanced career as a data engineer never having to touch one. Yet, in certain organizations and scenarios they are a game-changer and enabler. Just because you don't see value in them does not mean that the people who do are deluded.

dmitriid 5y ago
> Whose servers would a non-blockchain solution run on and how could all stakeholders trust the design, implementation and operations? Ah yes, unlike with blockchain where they have to trust the design and implementation of a blockchain by some third-party. > Blockchain makes this transparent, trustless, and auditable for everyone involved. Until someone comes along and says "we don't like TransportBlockhain designed and implemented by IBM, we are forming a separate coalition that uses ProcurementBlockchain designed and implemented by Tencent". Then what? > I mean, technically, the industry got by fine prior to IT as well, relying on pen and paper and telephone. Real problems are being solved, though. Ah yes. How could I forget: there are only two steps in the evolution of industry: pen-and-paper and blockchain (where blockchain somehow equals all of IT). > You seem a bit antagonistic/skeptic I am. Because every single argument for blockchain immediately devolves into heavy handwaving and "this will work because blockchain", while completely ignoring all of reality. > Yet, in certain organizations and scenarios they are a game-changer and enabler. Why is it when you ask people how exactly they change the game and enable anything, all descriptions are, at best, "there's no info, but it works because blockchain". And any available info shows that blockchain brings literally nothing to the table and solves none of the listed problems.

by 3np 5y ago

dmitriid 5y ago

> Whose servers would a non-blockchain solution run on and how could all stakeholders trust the design, implementation and operations? Ah yes, unlike with blockchain where they have to trust the design and implementation of a blockchain by some third-party. > Blockchain makes this transparent, trustless, and auditable for everyone involved. Until someone comes along and says "we don't like TransportBlockhain designed and implemented by IBM, we are forming a separate coalition that uses ProcurementBlockchain designed and implemented by Tencent". Then what? > I mean, technically, the industry got by fine prior to IT as well, relying on pen and paper and telephone. Real problems are being solved, though. Ah yes. How could I forget: there are only two steps in the evolution of industry: pen-and-paper and blockchain (where blockchain somehow equals all of IT). > You seem a bit antagonistic/skeptic I am. Because every single argument for blockchain immediately devolves into heavy handwaving and "this will work because blockchain", while completely ignoring all of reality. > Yet, in certain organizations and scenarios they are a game-changer and enabler. Why is it when you ask people how exactly they change the game and enable anything, all descriptions are, at best, "there's no info, but it works because blockchain". And any available info shows that blockchain brings literally nothing to the table and solves none of the listed problems.