> Forward secrecy is not of any real value in most instances of instant messaging as people usually keep their old messages around thus negating it. Both Signa

> Forward secrecy is not of any real value in most instances of instant messaging as people usually keep their old messages around thus negating it. Both Signal and WhatsApp have disappearing messages as a feature. Signal now allows users to enable this feature by default for new conversations. Most people keep their old messages because they're only aware of some remote dragnet surveillance threat in democratic countries. I'm sure the situation is different in countries where the surveillance is more offensive, and perceived so by the population.