Oh yeah, Gutmann actually explains this history in one of his writings, and then the certificates kinda start making sense. Also, remember the OSI model? It wa

Oh yeah, Gutmann actually explains this history in one of his writings, and then the certificates kinda start making sense. Also, remember the OSI model? It was not supposed to be just a model — and it's a failure of the model anyway, real network protocols just keep piling up application layers on top of each other, the upper ones using the lower ones as their transport layers, — no, there were supposed to be actual separate protocols for each level, and actually there are! Of course, nobody sane ever uses them.