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The internet still works, only the websites are returning the wrong response

by fagnerbrack 5y ago

abluecloud 5y ago
yeah, the internet is working perfectly. if you want to view 503 errors.
- Doxin 5y ago
  Believe it or not but "the internet" and "the world wide web" are not synonyms.
  - berkes 5y ago
    True. But the vast majority of use goes via "WWW". For example email - the other big "internet-user" is technically not part of the WWW, but most (? I don't have any stats, just a guess) of our mailclients run on the WWW, nonetheless.
    - fmajid 5y ago
      BitTorrent was half of all Internet traffic for a while, though it has decreased with the rise of legal and convenient streaming services.
      - berkes 5y ago
        Most of which (unfortunately) run on the WWW. I'm not sure what the native clients for Netflix and Spotify actually run, but I use their WWW clients mostly. Making most of my internet bits&bytes go over the WWW.
    - gspr 5y ago
      I think that's the point the other person was making: The Internet is still fine, regardless of whether or not the content gets delivered. There are roads (or shall I say tubes?). There are cars and busses on the road. Over time, almost everyone has migrated to just a few bus companies. One of them suffers a complete collapse for a few hours. Yes, this means chaos when it comes to transporting people. But the roads are just fine. This doesn't mean that the situation is fine and that people aren't affected. But it would be entirely different if the roads had been washed away or something.
iso1631 5y ago
Thank god network people haven't drunk the centralization kool-aid.
- Zyansheep 5y ago
  about that...
- taurath 5y ago
  It’s the equivalent to JIT manufacturing. Cheaper when everything is going fine, and devastating when it’s not. And then when everything goes down at once there’s not enough advantage to being the only one still up.
jb1991 5y ago
And only those websites on some networks. If I connect my phone to my cell network instead of wifi, the problem sites work for me.
qw 5y ago
Interestingly, server side rendered pages worked well during the outage. Most of the issues were caused by sites that are relying too much on Javascript.
- fagnerbrack 5y ago
  Yes, my personal project was working fine all the time. Only I couldn't access the Stripe payment system dashboard

The internet still works, only the websites are returning the wrong response

abluecloud 5y ago

yeah, the internet is working perfectly. if you want to view 503 errors.

Doxin 5y ago
Believe it or not but "the internet" and "the world wide web" are not synonyms.
- berkes 5y ago
  True. But the vast majority of use goes via "WWW". For example email - the other big "internet-user" is technically not part of the WWW, but most (? I don't have any stats, just a guess) of our mailclients run on the WWW, nonetheless.
  - fmajid 5y ago
    BitTorrent was half of all Internet traffic for a while, though it has decreased with the rise of legal and convenient streaming services.
    - berkes 5y ago
      Most of which (unfortunately) run on the WWW. I'm not sure what the native clients for Netflix and Spotify actually run, but I use their WWW clients mostly. Making most of my internet bits&bytes go over the WWW.
  - gspr 5y ago
    I think that's the point the other person was making: The Internet is still fine, regardless of whether or not the content gets delivered. There are roads (or shall I say tubes?). There are cars and busses on the road. Over time, almost everyone has migrated to just a few bus companies. One of them suffers a complete collapse for a few hours. Yes, this means chaos when it comes to transporting people. But the roads are just fine. This doesn't mean that the situation is fine and that people aren't affected. But it would be entirely different if the roads had been washed away or something.

iso1631 5y ago

Thank god network people haven't drunk the centralization kool-aid.

Zyansheep 5y ago
about that...
taurath 5y ago
It’s the equivalent to JIT manufacturing. Cheaper when everything is going fine, and devastating when it’s not. And then when everything goes down at once there’s not enough advantage to being the only one still up.

jb1991 5y ago

And only those websites on some networks. If I connect my phone to my cell network instead of wifi, the problem sites work for me.

qw 5y ago

Interestingly, server side rendered pages worked well during the outage. Most of the issues were caused by sites that are relying too much on Javascript.

fagnerbrack 5y ago
Yes, my personal project was working fine all the time. Only I couldn't access the Stripe payment system dashboard