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> By far the biggest problem — and the trickiest to solve — points to machine learning’s Catch-22: There are few large, diverse data sets to train and validate
by klodolph 5y ago
> By far the biggest problem — and the trickiest to solve — points to machine learning’s Catch-22: There are few large, diverse data sets to train and validate a new tool on, and many of those that do exist are kept confidential for legal or business reasons.
This is exactly my sense of the problem. Not saying that this is the only problem, just that this seems like the biggest immediate problem.
There are a bunch of questionable ML startups that try to do something with, say, a model trained on ImageNet. You can get pretty far starting with ImageNet. ImageNet was made with Mechanical Turk, but there is no Mechanical Turk for radiologists. If you work really hard you might get patient & treatment notes but interpreting those notes presents its own problem.
- Eridrus 5y agoI came away from this convinced that somebody needs to build a data sharing system for medical images. If there was a system for sharing images that had existed before Covid and enough data had been contributed that reviewers could demand evaluation on some predefined test sets, then a lot of these inconsistent evaluation issues could be weeded out. The article mentions federated learning, but I feel like that's solving a different problem than reliable evaluation.