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Here's to hoping for an M1 boot loader exploit so we can straight up run macOS on the iPad.

by valine 5y ago

arthurcolle 5y ago
This is the way
skhr0680 5y ago
I'm hoping Apple enables dual booting officially. I don't see any reason other than "We want to price segment iPad Pros and Macbooks"
- cibyr 5y ago
  The 13" iPad Pro costs more than the 13" Macbook air anyway.
- blowski 5y ago
  More than price segment, they want you to have both devices.
- SilverRed 5y ago
  I have a feeling they won't do this because they want developers to make ipad native apps designed for the smaller screen sizes and touch. Allowing dual boot would have users move off ipados rather than apps move over to iPadOS. I actually thing iPadOS is pretty great as it is and its simply a lack of apps as well as too restrictive app store ToS that's in the way
  - skhr0680 5y ago
    > I have a feeling they won't do this because they want developers to make ipad native apps designed for the smaller screen sizes and touch. This is a part that I don't understand. It is a size and quality of panel that is fine for pro-level (maybe not Professional™ level) work. I would buy an iPad Pro in a hot minute if it was possible to hook my mouse and keyboard up and use the same Photoshop etc that I'm used to using on my Mac. PS I'm not against touch apps, but not every app needs touch in my opinion. I'd like to have both.
    - SilverRed 5y ago
      I totally get this but I feel that the inability to directly run macos apps has opened the door for a lot of new apps in established industries which have ipad focused UIs which would have never got off the ground otherwise. My favorite example is Procreate. The UI blows the desktop software away with how minimal it is while still retaining all the functionality I need. Photoshop and other software have multiple layers of toolbars and sidebars which hog the screen while procreate leaves almost everything free for the canvas. If you could just run real photoshop right away I think we may have never got Procreate.
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billylindeman 5y ago
i was really hoping that'd be in the cards for this wwdc announcement. It'd easily become my main machine overnight.
FPGAhacker 5y ago
Why? I could see wanting some macOS apps to work on iOS, that makes sense to me. But with sidecar you can get a pretty good idea of macOS on iPad. And it’s not great. At least as-is it’s not great.
- thih9 5y ago
  > Why? Also: - Fewer restrictions, e.g. running apps not from the App Store, transferring media files, and more. - Some people might prefer macOS abstractions; resizable windows, desktop, trash, etc.
  - thathndude 5y ago
    This. I loved the first Microsoft surface, it was exactly what I wanted. A wicked small portable that ran a full OS that could, among other things, run PERL scripts for me. I still don’t think I can do that with iOS, and the 12” MacBook is gone. Sign me up for an 11.7” running full MacOS
    - e_proxus 5y ago
      The perfect setup would be an M1 iPad that runs something iOS-like when it is in tablet mode and then switches to macOS when in laptop mode, keeping the apps running. At least, one can dream…
      - thih9 5y ago
        Technically we could duct tape an iPad to the back of a Macbook Air?.. Sure, the CPUs are needlessly duplicated and so is the price but the UX and the form factor seem close? Obviously tongue in cheek, but also a fun thought experiment.
- emptyparadise 5y ago
  I want a Microsoft Surface with an M1 chip.
  - 5y ago
neurostimulant 5y ago
Does MacOS has built-in touchscreen support?
- arthurcolle 5y ago
  https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/46917/does-the-mac-support-multitouch-screens-in-any-way https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/46917/does-the-mac... Old post on this topic

Here's to hoping for an M1 boot loader exploit so we can straight up run macOS on the iPad.

by valine 5y ago

Here's to hoping for an M1 boot loader exploit so we can straight up run macOS on the iPad.

arthurcolle 5y ago

This is the way

skhr0680 5y ago

I'm hoping Apple enables dual booting officially. I don't see any reason other than "We want to price segment iPad Pros and Macbooks"

cibyr 5y ago
The 13" iPad Pro costs more than the 13" Macbook air anyway.
blowski 5y ago
More than price segment, they want you to have both devices.
SilverRed 5y ago
I have a feeling they won't do this because they want developers to make ipad native apps designed for the smaller screen sizes and touch. Allowing dual boot would have users move off ipados rather than apps move over to iPadOS. I actually thing iPadOS is pretty great as it is and its simply a lack of apps as well as too restrictive app store ToS that's in the way
- skhr0680 5y ago
  > I have a feeling they won't do this because they want developers to make ipad native apps designed for the smaller screen sizes and touch. This is a part that I don't understand. It is a size and quality of panel that is fine for pro-level (maybe not Professional™ level) work. I would buy an iPad Pro in a hot minute if it was possible to hook my mouse and keyboard up and use the same Photoshop etc that I'm used to using on my Mac. PS I'm not against touch apps, but not every app needs touch in my opinion. I'd like to have both.
  - SilverRed 5y ago
    I totally get this but I feel that the inability to directly run macos apps has opened the door for a lot of new apps in established industries which have ipad focused UIs which would have never got off the ground otherwise. My favorite example is Procreate. The UI blows the desktop software away with how minimal it is while still retaining all the functionality I need. Photoshop and other software have multiple layers of toolbars and sidebars which hog the screen while procreate leaves almost everything free for the canvas. If you could just run real photoshop right away I think we may have never got Procreate.
- deleted 5y ago
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billylindeman 5y ago

i was really hoping that'd be in the cards for this wwdc announcement. It'd easily become my main machine overnight.

FPGAhacker 5y ago

Why? I could see wanting some macOS apps to work on iOS, that makes sense to me. But with sidecar you can get a pretty good idea of macOS on iPad. And it’s not great. At least as-is it’s not great.

thih9 5y ago
> Why? Also: - Fewer restrictions, e.g. running apps not from the App Store, transferring media files, and more. - Some people might prefer macOS abstractions; resizable windows, desktop, trash, etc.
- thathndude 5y ago
  This. I loved the first Microsoft surface, it was exactly what I wanted. A wicked small portable that ran a full OS that could, among other things, run PERL scripts for me. I still don’t think I can do that with iOS, and the 12” MacBook is gone. Sign me up for an 11.7” running full MacOS
  - e_proxus 5y ago
    The perfect setup would be an M1 iPad that runs something iOS-like when it is in tablet mode and then switches to macOS when in laptop mode, keeping the apps running. At least, one can dream…
    - thih9 5y ago
      Technically we could duct tape an iPad to the back of a Macbook Air?.. Sure, the CPUs are needlessly duplicated and so is the price but the UX and the form factor seem close? Obviously tongue in cheek, but also a fun thought experiment.
emptyparadise 5y ago
I want a Microsoft Surface with an M1 chip.
- 5y ago

neurostimulant 5y ago

Does MacOS has built-in touchscreen support?

arthurcolle 5y ago
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/46917/does-the-mac-support-multitouch-screens-in-any-way https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/46917/does-the-mac... Old post on this topic