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I think it's high time we had a webring resurgence. It's impossible to get anywhere with plain search anymore, what we need is curated websites that other domai

by worble 5y ago

I think it's high time we had a webring resurgence. It's impossible to get anywhere with plain search anymore, what we need is curated websites that other domain owners are happy to say "I endorse the people running this site, so if like my stuff you'll like them too"

emodendroket 5y ago
Isn't that what people go to social media for?
- bottled_poe 5y ago
  Social media is gamed the same way? Sharebots, etc
  - emodendroket 5y ago
    Do you suppose Web rings wouldn't be when there's money in it? There was plenty of that when they were just for fun.
    - IggleSniggle 5y ago
      It’s fundamentally about trust models. That is to say, about the audience. Everybody gave up trusting webrings because Google provided better results. Now that Google results are shit, there’s room for other information vendors to come along, even if it’s in narrow areas. Actually, HN is already this for me in some respects.
      - emodendroket 5y ago
        In my opinion this site is not really so different from, say, Reddit, beyond having more focused rules and being smaller. So I don't think my idea that social media have supplanted the Web ring is wide of the mark.
cortesoft 5y ago
If they can inject a random link into a page, why couldn't they also be able to inject a web ring link?
stevenicr 5y ago
Id like to see. and be happy to post some various web rings and blogrolls.. One of the things that killed them imho is when google started penalizing sites that linked to some other sites. This was compounded by the expired-domain market.. wordpress even took out linkrolls around that time, people that had them in sidebar widgets would have them disappear unless they installed a new plugin to bring them back. Webrings that auto-add the "nofollow tag" I guess could make them okay for people again. Might be cool to have a github type page with a list of rings to reccomend.. a script auto-pulls it into your page, adding nofollow - and then other people could copy your list or clone/fork..

by worble 5y ago

emodendroket 5y ago

Isn't that what people go to social media for?

bottled_poe 5y ago
Social media is gamed the same way? Sharebots, etc
- emodendroket 5y ago
  Do you suppose Web rings wouldn't be when there's money in it? There was plenty of that when they were just for fun.
  - IggleSniggle 5y ago
    It’s fundamentally about trust models. That is to say, about the audience. Everybody gave up trusting webrings because Google provided better results. Now that Google results are shit, there’s room for other information vendors to come along, even if it’s in narrow areas. Actually, HN is already this for me in some respects.
    - emodendroket 5y ago
      In my opinion this site is not really so different from, say, Reddit, beyond having more focused rules and being smaller. So I don't think my idea that social media have supplanted the Web ring is wide of the mark.

cortesoft 5y ago

If they can inject a random link into a page, why couldn't they also be able to inject a web ring link?

stevenicr 5y ago

Id like to see. and be happy to post some various web rings and blogrolls.. One of the things that killed them imho is when google started penalizing sites that linked to some other sites. This was compounded by the expired-domain market.. wordpress even took out linkrolls around that time, people that had them in sidebar widgets would have them disappear unless they installed a new plugin to bring them back. Webrings that auto-add the "nofollow tag" I guess could make them okay for people again. Might be cool to have a github type page with a list of rings to reccomend.. a script auto-pulls it into your page, adding nofollow - and then other people could copy your list or clone/fork..