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The culture that would do that without recognizing why it's not as simple as 'just allowing' something is what leads to every tablet except the iPad sucking. T

The culture that would do that without recognizing why it's not as simple as 'just allowing' something is what leads to every tablet except the iPad sucking. They want the quality bar to be high - they make different products for different purposes.

rowanG077 5y ago
Ipad is one of the sucky tablets. The only tablets worth anything are the windows tablets like the Surface Pros or the thinkpads. Besides I don't see how allowing an option to install any OS you want brings down the quality of a product. If you don't want it because you feel it's low quality. Ok that's fine. Just use iOS.
- salamandersauce 5y ago
  Except the windows tablets suck as tablets. The touch ecosystem is barren because a lot of services just expect you'll use the website or the desktop app.
  - rowanG077 5y ago
    I disagree. There indeed are a lot of programs which are not touch optimized. But if that's not a fair comparison since you can't do those things on an ipad at all. If you restrict the functionality of the windows tablet to the very small subset of ipad activities then the windows tablet does not fare badly.
    - salamandersauce 5y ago
      Yes it is. It's not just stuff like Visual Studio or Adobe Illustrator lacking touch optimized programs that aren't available on iPad, it's lacking key basics like Kindle, Comixology, Disney+, etc. They either expect you to use the website or the desktop app which isn't as good an experience as an iPad or Android tablet when only using your fingers.
      - rowanG077 5y ago
        I use the Kindle app very often and it works perfectly fine with touch. I have never used Disney+ but I doubt they don't work with touch. Comixology is not available on windows but Cover is a perfect alternative designed with touch in mind. From your comment it seems you didn't actually even try any of the softwares you listed.
        salamandersauce 5y ago
        Nope. I have. That's why I know. D+ doesn't let you download shows for offline viewing in the browser, only apps. Cover is not an alternative to Comixology because it doesn't work with most Comixology purchases. Kindle desktop app has settings hidden away in the file bar, requiring awkward touches or a mouse to use.

rowanG077 5y ago

Ipad is one of the sucky tablets. The only tablets worth anything are the windows tablets like the Surface Pros or the thinkpads. Besides I don't see how allowing an option to install any OS you want brings down the quality of a product. If you don't want it because you feel it's low quality. Ok that's fine. Just use iOS.

salamandersauce 5y ago
Except the windows tablets suck as tablets. The touch ecosystem is barren because a lot of services just expect you'll use the website or the desktop app.
- rowanG077 5y ago
  I disagree. There indeed are a lot of programs which are not touch optimized. But if that's not a fair comparison since you can't do those things on an ipad at all. If you restrict the functionality of the windows tablet to the very small subset of ipad activities then the windows tablet does not fare badly.
  - salamandersauce 5y ago
    Yes it is. It's not just stuff like Visual Studio or Adobe Illustrator lacking touch optimized programs that aren't available on iPad, it's lacking key basics like Kindle, Comixology, Disney+, etc. They either expect you to use the website or the desktop app which isn't as good an experience as an iPad or Android tablet when only using your fingers.
    - rowanG077 5y ago
      I use the Kindle app very often and it works perfectly fine with touch. I have never used Disney+ but I doubt they don't work with touch. Comixology is not available on windows but Cover is a perfect alternative designed with touch in mind. From your comment it seems you didn't actually even try any of the softwares you listed.
      - salamandersauce 5y ago
        Nope. I have. That's why I know. D+ doesn't let you download shows for offline viewing in the browser, only apps. Cover is not an alternative to Comixology because it doesn't work with most Comixology purchases. Kindle desktop app has settings hidden away in the file bar, requiring awkward touches or a mouse to use.