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Buffett's father was a 4 term congressman and an almost Ron Paul-like libertarian, btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Buffett http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

by hop 15y ago

Buffett's father was a 4 term congressman and an almost Ron Paul-like libertarian, btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Buffett http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Buffett

pgsucksdick 15y ago
And not a single fuck was given for your lack of insight.
cheez 15y ago
Warren Buffet made a tidy profit on the bailouts. He knew who was anointed to survive and who was not. Of course Warren loves the influence of government!
- jhamburger 15y ago
  He lives in a modest home in Omaha and will probably give more money to charity than anyone in history when all is said and done. Do you really think his political views are driven by his own personal gain?
  - cheez 15y ago
    No, definitely not. I think he enjoys the game. I think Buffet likes to be comfortable. I don't think he has a need to show off. But that doesn't detract from the fact that he sees it as a game to be played and a competition. It could be for really expensive beans for all he cares.
  - anamax 15y ago
    > He lives in a modest home in Omaha and will probably give more money to charity than anyone in history when all is said and done. Do you really think his political views are driven by his own personal gain? Yes, because he's human and every human's political views are driven by their personal gain. Your mistake is in thinking that money is the only personal gain. It's not. It isn't even one of the most effective motivators. And, in Buffet's case, there's the difference between "money made" and "money spent". At some point, the latter becomes uninteresting but that tells us nothing about the former. And, interestingly enough, Buffet's "advice for the country" always seems to be aligned with his financial stake. (He never advocates increasing the taxes that he pays and he often advocates increasing taxes in ways that benefit him - the estate tax being a prime example.)
    - jhamburger 15y ago
      On the contrary he has called for increasing the capital gains tax precisely because he himself (and obviously others like him) pay such low effective marginal tax rates. He even took the time to calculate that he paid an effective 17% while his receptionist paid 30%, to criticize the effects of Bush-era capital gains tax cuts. I don't know how much more clear it can be that this is not financial self-interest.
      - borism 15y ago
        In that particular case, yes. I don't remember him advocating corporate or estate tax increases though? Capital gains? Hardly applies to Berkshire Hathaway anyway.
        anamax 15y ago
        http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0214-01.htm http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0214-01.htm is some reporting on his support of estate taxes.
      - anamax 15y ago
        > On the contrary he has called for increasing the capital gains tax precisely because he himself (and obviously others like him) pay such low effective marginal tax rates. You're assuming that he's going to pay significant capital gains. He's not because he lives so cheap that he doesn't sell all that much. In other words, the capital gains rate is largely irrelevant to him. While he lives cheap, he does like to win and increase the value of Berkshire. The capital gains tax rate does have an effect on the folks selling companies to Berkshire.... Buffet also advocates increasing the estate tax, which is a two-fer. Berkshire makes a lot of money selling insurance to help people with the estate tax. Berkshire also picks up companies because the inheritors can't pay said tax. Meanwhile, he's arranged things so the bulk of his estate will never be taxed.
- nate_meurer 15y ago
  WB benefits from almost every movement in the economy, with or without government involvement. From everything that I have read, he has made plain his disinterest in the big investment banks and their fates. Here's a great example: http://swampland.time.com/2009/09/15/warren-buffett-could-have-saved-lehma/#more-16385 http://swampland.time.com/2009/09/15/warren-buffett-could-ha...
  - cheez 15y ago
    A guy like Buffet makes investments holding his nose. I think he made something like 4 billion on the GS deal. I hate tobacco companies but I bought in 2008 when dividend yields were > 5%. Of course, I'm no Buffet...

by hop 15y ago

Buffett's father was a 4 term congressman and an almost Ron Paul-like libertarian, btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Buffett http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Buffett

pgsucksdick 15y ago

And not a single fuck was given for your lack of insight.

cheez 15y ago

Warren Buffet made a tidy profit on the bailouts. He knew who was anointed to survive and who was not. Of course Warren loves the influence of government!

jhamburger 15y ago
He lives in a modest home in Omaha and will probably give more money to charity than anyone in history when all is said and done. Do you really think his political views are driven by his own personal gain?
- cheez 15y ago
  No, definitely not. I think he enjoys the game. I think Buffet likes to be comfortable. I don't think he has a need to show off. But that doesn't detract from the fact that he sees it as a game to be played and a competition. It could be for really expensive beans for all he cares.
- anamax 15y ago
  > He lives in a modest home in Omaha and will probably give more money to charity than anyone in history when all is said and done. Do you really think his political views are driven by his own personal gain? Yes, because he's human and every human's political views are driven by their personal gain. Your mistake is in thinking that money is the only personal gain. It's not. It isn't even one of the most effective motivators. And, in Buffet's case, there's the difference between "money made" and "money spent". At some point, the latter becomes uninteresting but that tells us nothing about the former. And, interestingly enough, Buffet's "advice for the country" always seems to be aligned with his financial stake. (He never advocates increasing the taxes that he pays and he often advocates increasing taxes in ways that benefit him - the estate tax being a prime example.)
  - jhamburger 15y ago
    On the contrary he has called for increasing the capital gains tax precisely because he himself (and obviously others like him) pay such low effective marginal tax rates. He even took the time to calculate that he paid an effective 17% while his receptionist paid 30%, to criticize the effects of Bush-era capital gains tax cuts. I don't know how much more clear it can be that this is not financial self-interest.
    - borism 15y ago
      In that particular case, yes. I don't remember him advocating corporate or estate tax increases though? Capital gains? Hardly applies to Berkshire Hathaway anyway.
      - anamax 15y ago
        http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0214-01.htm http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0214-01.htm is some reporting on his support of estate taxes.
    - anamax 15y ago
      > On the contrary he has called for increasing the capital gains tax precisely because he himself (and obviously others like him) pay such low effective marginal tax rates. You're assuming that he's going to pay significant capital gains. He's not because he lives so cheap that he doesn't sell all that much. In other words, the capital gains rate is largely irrelevant to him. While he lives cheap, he does like to win and increase the value of Berkshire. The capital gains tax rate does have an effect on the folks selling companies to Berkshire.... Buffet also advocates increasing the estate tax, which is a two-fer. Berkshire makes a lot of money selling insurance to help people with the estate tax. Berkshire also picks up companies because the inheritors can't pay said tax. Meanwhile, he's arranged things so the bulk of his estate will never be taxed.
nate_meurer 15y ago
WB benefits from almost every movement in the economy, with or without government involvement. From everything that I have read, he has made plain his disinterest in the big investment banks and their fates. Here's a great example: http://swampland.time.com/2009/09/15/warren-buffett-could-have-saved-lehma/#more-16385 http://swampland.time.com/2009/09/15/warren-buffett-could-ha...
- cheez 15y ago
  A guy like Buffet makes investments holding his nose. I think he made something like 4 billion on the GS deal. I hate tobacco companies but I bought in 2008 when dividend yields were > 5%. Of course, I'm no Buffet...