> I believe people have the right to create life This is the crux of my disagreement with you, and you haven't really presented an argument for your position.

> I believe people have the right to create life This is the crux of my disagreement with you, and you haven't really presented an argument for your position. > if no one is ever justified to bring others into being then all life is the product of injustice This is exactly what I'm saying. I've said why I believe it's unjust, and you agree with the core of my reasoning; that unborn children can't consent to their birth. If you have an argument for why that doesn't make procreation a moral harm then I'm all ears.