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What struck me about the NYT article is that it portrayed the ACLU as undergoing a generational shift, with younger lawyers being more open to actively pursuing
by zwieback 5y ago
What struck me about the NYT article is that it portrayed the ACLU as undergoing a generational shift, with younger lawyers being more open to actively pursuing a progressive agenda vs. just defending free speech.
Simultaneously, the NYT seems to be undergoing its own shift to being more openly anti-PC and anti-woke.
- marcusverus 5y agoWhat has the NYT done to make you think it is becoming less woke?
- throwaway894345 5y agoNYT runs a token moderate liberal article once in a while to represent the "right wing" viewpoint so they can argue that they're a balanced, neutral news source, which some take to mean they are "anti-woke".
- zwieback 5y agoI've read quite a a few editorials as well as main articles about excessive speech policing, primarily at colleges. There's plenty of reporting about self-destructive policies of the Demorcats and warnings about playing into Trumps hand. Also, the "NYY picks" of comments about articles are generally commenters complaining about illiberal trends. I don't read cover-to-cover so I might be getting a selective view. My general impression is that the NYT is trying to satisfy it's generally older, whiter readership by weighing in against wokeness.
- jimbob45 5y agoDo you have any evidence to show the NYT moving against progressivism like you claim? Hordes of HN posters have agreed that they NYT’s shift away from neutrality towards progressivism in recent years has destroyed their positive view of the publication.
- zwieback 5y agoSorry, no hard evidence. I've just been reading the NYT online for the past year or so and have been struck by the number of articles portraying speech policing as a real problem coming from the left. I don't know if the NYT generally shifted from more neutral to more progressive, just that they perceive the excesses of wokism in education and media as a real problem.
- tarboreus 5y agoI think a better characterization is that the NYT is huge, and there are groups that are "woke," groups that are traditionally liberal, and a lot of other groups as well. The trend line has been toward the progressive wing, but there are major constituencies active at the paper that aren't in that camp.