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> And it's not just Apple devices that can use a FaceTime link to join a call. Android and Windows devices can join from the browser. Even on the web, FaceTime

> And it's not just Apple devices that can use a FaceTime link to join a call. Android and Windows devices can join from the browser. Even on the web, FaceTime calls are still end-to-end encrypted. from https://live.arstechnica.com/apples-wwdc-2021-keynote/ https://live.arstechnica.com/apples-wwdc-2021-keynote/

CobrastanJorji 5y ago
Yes! As an Android user with Apple family, this is great news! > machine learning blocks out ambient noise and prioritizes your voice Ooo, and they're catching up with Google. > Video calls will now get grid view. Ooo, and they're catching up with Zoom. > Now you can generate a link for a call and share it anywhere. Ooo, and they're catching up with...basically everyone for the last 10 years. Was that really not a thing before now?
- vmception 5y ago
  Apple's whole thing is to see what features the market likes for a 3-5 years and putting it into an integrated package. Nobody cares that a flagship android device can warp spacetime but could also take down an airplane when its battery explodes. People want to be able to share with their friends in the same ecosystem. With Facetime, it was only 1-1 calls until the last year or two, now they are branching out and taking the features people like from other apps and making it native. People are less likely to choose those apps now. Google and Apple do the same thing in this regard.
  - imbnwa 5y ago
    Also Amazon?
- silicon2401 5y ago
  Almost nothing about apple software is revolutionary except them getting people to treat them as if they are revolutionary. I got an iphone for work and was comically underwhelmed by iOS. Despite it being frustrating to use for a power user (in contrast to Android which I've happily used for over a decade), it's also unintuitive and convoluted for novice users like my grandma. Their hardware design is sometimes nice, but their final hardware products are equally underwhelming. IMO what makes Apple stand out isn't that it's particularly great, it's that everyone else is so bad.
  - voisin 5y ago
    The thing that is revolutionary is how it integrates. Things just work, without requiring the user to be a power user searching for ways to side load apps and ADM in termal to make it happen. Almost every time I see an Android user brag about a new feature it turns out that the implementation is horrendous. Of course Apple doesn’t want to put their name to it under they get it right. And they almost always do.
    - silicon2401 5y ago
      I don't agree at all. I have an old iPad that's a nightmare to use to read comics. Literally just swiping through JPEGs is an ordeal of trying to find some way to go around iTunes, then finally having to manage media through iTunes. On Android, for at least 10 years, you can just drag and drop files. Fast delete is horrible: first it deletes letter by letter, then suddenly jumps to word by word; on Android you just swipe from the delete key and you can see how much you're going to delete. On Android you can easily customize your home screen and swipe down for info; apple has a worse implementation and it took them ages to implement. To an apple fan this may be nitpicking; to me this is an example of how every single step of the way, apple products are painful and frustrating to use. On a macbook it's not as bad because I can generally override and customize things. iOS is just the worst of both worlds: apple's extremely opinionated implementations, with none of the workarounds available on mac os. I'd take any version of android over any version of iOS.
kgwxd 5y ago
Wonder if it'll work from Firefox.
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CobrastanJorji 5y ago

Yes! As an Android user with Apple family, this is great news! > machine learning blocks out ambient noise and prioritizes your voice Ooo, and they're catching up with Google. > Video calls will now get grid view. Ooo, and they're catching up with Zoom. > Now you can generate a link for a call and share it anywhere. Ooo, and they're catching up with...basically everyone for the last 10 years. Was that really not a thing before now?

vmception 5y ago
Apple's whole thing is to see what features the market likes for a 3-5 years and putting it into an integrated package. Nobody cares that a flagship android device can warp spacetime but could also take down an airplane when its battery explodes. People want to be able to share with their friends in the same ecosystem. With Facetime, it was only 1-1 calls until the last year or two, now they are branching out and taking the features people like from other apps and making it native. People are less likely to choose those apps now. Google and Apple do the same thing in this regard.
- imbnwa 5y ago
  Also Amazon?
silicon2401 5y ago
Almost nothing about apple software is revolutionary except them getting people to treat them as if they are revolutionary. I got an iphone for work and was comically underwhelmed by iOS. Despite it being frustrating to use for a power user (in contrast to Android which I've happily used for over a decade), it's also unintuitive and convoluted for novice users like my grandma. Their hardware design is sometimes nice, but their final hardware products are equally underwhelming. IMO what makes Apple stand out isn't that it's particularly great, it's that everyone else is so bad.
- voisin 5y ago
  The thing that is revolutionary is how it integrates. Things just work, without requiring the user to be a power user searching for ways to side load apps and ADM in termal to make it happen. Almost every time I see an Android user brag about a new feature it turns out that the implementation is horrendous. Of course Apple doesn’t want to put their name to it under they get it right. And they almost always do.
  - silicon2401 5y ago
    I don't agree at all. I have an old iPad that's a nightmare to use to read comics. Literally just swiping through JPEGs is an ordeal of trying to find some way to go around iTunes, then finally having to manage media through iTunes. On Android, for at least 10 years, you can just drag and drop files. Fast delete is horrible: first it deletes letter by letter, then suddenly jumps to word by word; on Android you just swipe from the delete key and you can see how much you're going to delete. On Android you can easily customize your home screen and swipe down for info; apple has a worse implementation and it took them ages to implement. To an apple fan this may be nitpicking; to me this is an example of how every single step of the way, apple products are painful and frustrating to use. On a macbook it's not as bad because I can generally override and customize things. iOS is just the worst of both worlds: apple's extremely opinionated implementations, with none of the workarounds available on mac os. I'd take any version of android over any version of iOS.

kgwxd 5y ago

Wonder if it'll work from Firefox.

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